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just a question mr twister on those long tubes have you tried the long tubes in a car with power steering and they cleared fine or is that what the goal is also where will pricing be on the long tubes and finally will they be a little more cleaned up when you start selling them or are all the welds going to look like that where the bends are welded together i guess i am just being picky but i would be interested if they were a little cleaner looking and priced right I mean no disrespect but right now they just dont look as clean as i would want them to look in my engine bay i dont so much mind the welds if they were ground smooth but it seems if you could bend the tubes from one piece flow would be a bit better as well. Again i am not critisizing your headers just asking questions so i know which way i want to go when i buy a set of headers. Thanks Justin