ohh ok thanks for the info, that makes more sense now. haha ya when he kinda shut me down on it i didnt respond but just thought "hmm.. im pretty sure the A100 vans ive seen around here are all fargos." ya my mom used to have a fargo but the tranny went on it so she got rid of it (years ago), but i always remind her of how she should have known she would have a son who would restore it if she had only kept it, haha.