Yea no problem Jack I got a before picture and I'll post it with the after picture. I'm hoping for a little more cooling as the old girl would slowly creep up in temp. in stop and go traffic and since the seal was leaking I'm trying to kill to birds with one stone. I'm not running a shroud cuss it would have to be custom made since this rad doesn't accept the standard unit and that would be real pricey. I also got the proper thermostat for the high flow, they call them balanced thermostats.