dougs headers

I purchased a set of D453's for my 69 340 4 speed car. They don't work with the 4 speed as the bell housing side of the z-bar is impeded by one of the header tubes. Can't get the clutch hooked up without some modification. I can say that Doug's sent special reference to the 727 tranny saying that an ome Chrysler (Mitsubushi) mini started is recommended (translate: required) for the 727. I attempted to use another (chubbier) mini and was not successful. Spent hours on the phone with Doug's tech suppt to no avail. They insist that the headers fit, they don't fit with the 4 speed application. I'm stuck with an expensive set of headers I can't use. As the Dart is an original matching numbers car I'm unwilling to modify the z-bar or go to a hydraulic clutch so the headers are out. I'm thinking you may have better luck with the 727 so long as you go with the recommended mini starter.

I had the same issues with 2 sets of tti headers and z bars. Have to move the downleg over because it hits a tube at almost 12 o'clock position. My Dougs were exactly the same.

Why not buy another z bar and modify it. Then you have the stock bar if you go back to std exhaust. Unless you are doing the 100 point show circuit, nobody will care.