This tire vs. this tire...

Grinder said
As far as:dgc333 Unless you are doing a bunch of suspension upgrades you won't ever be able to get the potential out of those tires on the twisties and they won't work well on the strip either.

This is so wrong I dont even know where to begin.

You will never see the full potential of your 360 in your 3,000 lbs. Mopar,so unless you are going to build an aluminum full frame chassis for it,its a waste of time.

Does that bring it into perspective for you? Just because you dont drive a Porsche,does not mean you will not benifit from a better tire,NO MATTER WHAT! In fact if all of our old Mopars had light weight aluminum wheels,with low pro performance tires on them,they would be faster,stop quicker,steer better,and save some fuel economy.I am not trying to be an ***,just trying to get you to see why what you said was wrong.

As far as bad for the drag strip,true.But, that is why they make slicks/drag radials. Dont know about anyone else on here, but usually I run the best street tires I can,drive to the track and bolt on slicks/competition tires(autox,road race)race and when I am done bolt my street tires back on and drive home.I would NEVER pick a street tire because it was not drag friendly.A good drag tire is the complete opposite of what you want on the street.

The design of the old mopar suspension was good for it's day but by today's standards it's not very good. The caster & camber change through the suspension range of motion and the amount of body roll don't allow for the tire to remain flat on the road. The bump steer in the front, rear steer introduced by the layout of the leaf springs and the generally soft bushings and flexible suspension parts induce instability that doesn't inspire confidence during high speed driving in the twisties.

With a stock suspension car you will reach the limits of the suspension (either because it can't keep the tire in contact with the road or the handling is spooky enough that you won't go faster) before you do of the tires. That is why I said you won't see the full potential of the tires without suspension modifications. I still stand by by my statement.

Personally I can't see spending the up to $200 or more that the typical "Ultra Performance" tire costs in that situation. However, if you looked at my second post after I had gone to the Tire Rack site and the tires ckj688 has mentioned are well under $100 each right in the same price range something like a BFGoodrich Radial TA and suggested that he should go for it.

Then after seeing the upgrades he has down to the suspension the tires are right in line with what would be appropriate.

As far as my being able to get the full potential out of my 360, I do almost every time I drive it. I have done a lot of suspension upgrades, to my car not as extensive as the coil over Alterkation kit cjk688 has done but I have made a very significant improvement in the handling.