A 833 vs Toploader vs Muncie (rockcrusher)

nemesis said

Yep, im pretty sure it was you outsider talking about the muncies etc!
An the guy with the corvette i think in hes avatar....

I apreciate the advice outsider :)

So out of all the manuals youve dealt with,the a833 has given
you the least amount of troubles?
Ever dealt with toploaders?

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I thought that might have been the thread. Anyway, yes I think the A833 was a real gem. As far as Toploaders go, I grew up in Ford and Chevy country, and there were alot of nice cars around that had Toploaders. I've helped with a couple of rebuuilds on 4-speeds, and I've rebuilt several of the Ford Toploader 3-speeds that came in GTOs from the factory. All the units I've seen were built right. nice strong gears, solid cases with the bearings well supported. They will break of course, but they'll take alot more punishment in stock form than a Muncie in my opinion. One thing I failed to mention in that previous post was the PATHETIC Muncie and FoMoCo shifters that came on the things. The FoMoCo shifter was equally as bad as the Inland Mopar unit, and nearly incapable of speed shifting. The Muncie shifter in Chevelles was absolute garbage. I had a close friend who owned a '70 SS 396/402. He dropped a healthy 427 into it and it ran pretty strong. I drove the car, and I couldn't even change gears driving down the street let alone full speed shifts. There was no clear gate for the gear, and you had to drop the shifter into 2nd to be confident that straight up was 1st. Terrible.