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Yeah but eddy's need work too, pushrod holes are outta wack and the valve job leaves much to be desired, just for starters.....

Hmmmm... most people that run them seem to do so with a great deal of success. I don't really recall ever having spoken to anyone or read much on the boards that say the Eddy's are not a bolt-on deal. I guess if you're trying to go 9 seconds with them maybe but for most guys, OOTB Eddys are the best bang for the buck.

EQ's perfect??? Do it yourself or find someone here that has as big a cam as MAD DART with their EQ's and then lets see what is really happening.

No one is saying EQ's are perfect, just a better deal at the moment because they do not require all sorts of machining to be able to utilize them to their fullest potential. Porting heads without re-engineering the valves is decidedly more straightforward than re-engineering the valve layout, then porting.

Most people don't even check geometry let alone how much ACTUAL lift they are getting at the valve.

So then for 'most people' the EQ's would be a better deal since they don't require re-engineering the valve.

The 'IDEA' behind using them is that they 'flow well', bolt up stock with no mod's to brackets for accessory's and you can make more power with iron given the same comp ratio compared to aluminum.

True, no one is disputing that. What is being discussed is that they have such good potential in raw form that it's really unfortunate that they can't be utilized to their fullest potential without a complicated work-around to a terrible design flaw.

I think his only regret is going with magum rocker set up and having work done on the other side of the country by someone who didn't have all the parts to mock up before stem heights amongst other things were cut. JMO
Who's fault if anyones is that....

Well, exactly. If BJR didn't have to do all the complicated stuff to the valves then it would have been just straight-up porting and bolt them on. Not sure what your point is. I don't know exactly what Mad Dart is doing with these but they seem like an odd choice for a serious effort exactly because of the silly design flaw.

Not sure what rocker choice he made but the FBO/racer brown stuff looks killer to me. I'd run that stuff without worry.

But anyway, why go into something knowing that they will have to be completely re-worked to get them to work like you want them to? Why not just start at a better point? There's other alternatives that would end up costing about the same with porting one all said and done. Seems like wasted effort and money to me but whatever, I'm sure they work great!

It's annoying that this product appears to have so much potential but someone somewhere dropped the ball on the valve layout. Why pay for that?