Sad to learn I've bitten by another bad deal from a member

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68 Sedan

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Yeah, it's bitchin time again, but I'll keep it simple.

As lots of you know I bought a lot of parts for my now EX Sedan project from members on here.I hate to say it but not all those parts turned out to be what they were supposed to be.

This past week I finally opened the box containing the SBP brakes and 8.75 axles I got from someone on here maybe a year ago. I didn't closely inspect everything......which I should have.......but I like to think people are honest, and what I'm getting is what I think I'm getting.

The person who purchased these same brakes and axles just sent me a PM. Everything arrived in good shape. HOWEVER......it turns out the brakes don't match.

I suppose just like I didn't calculate the weight for shipment correctly and I lost my butt on this deal, it's my fault for not checking the parts when they arrived. But I didn't need them right then. So I didn't.....just like a lot of you have bought stuff and not looked at it.

I don't know why I'm lucky enough to get a screwing from some of the members here (including the lieing sack I got the Duster from) but I've had WAY more of that kind of luck than I think any one person deserves.

Nothing good will come of this. I just needed to vent about another fabulous deal from another fabulous member.
 
Bummer 68sedan, I hate to hear of your bad luck but I am afraid that even FABO can't escape human nature huh? It is sad.
 
I `m sorry to hear about your getting beatup again. Are we not allowed to OUT the member who does this on this forum? If you cannot answer, maybe a moderator can. Also, is this why the Sedan project is an EX, or you still have a Duster project? God bless you. Wayne
 
Thanks guys. I still have the Duster, and I'm still trying to get it 100% straightened out. NOT a small job.

The brakes weren't the only parts I've bought from here that were not as described. There were others. Unfortunately, it has been so long since I bought these parts that I don't recall who I got them from. And since I was "removed" a couple of months ago all the PMs I had relating to parts etc were lost.

I usually go to great lengths to make sure about what I'm selling so people won't talk about me. But I didn't check this stuff. And out of all the stuff I've sold, only ONE PERSON saw fit to thank me publicly for the trouble I went to to pack and ship his stuff, and only one other person bothered to tell me the parts I sent arrived.

sad. You'd think I've done nothing but try to screw members here instead of just trying to be a part.

I've got a technical question on the Duster posted in the electrical section. I'd appreciate it if someone could have a look and give me a definitive answer.

thanks
 
Ya know I'm a new member here, But here's an idea we've been kicking around on another site.

Folks who are in good standing and trustworthy could go and look ( make sure the item is there and what the seller says it is) at an item before you buy it. That way items that are not in your area could be viewed by an impartial third party.

I've been ripped off over the net before, so I'm more than willing to go out of my way and look at items in my area.
 
Just wondering if it's possible the member who sold you the mismatched brakes made an honest mistake? Can you check your p.m's and find him? Maybe he has the odd brake parts lying around, you'd be no worse off for asking.
 
If my original post had been read, you would see that all the PMs I had archived are lost. I cannot check them, and I do not remember who I got the parts from. And I suppose there is an outside chance they made an error. BUT, the guy I bought the parts from packed the stuff up. All I did was remove it all from one box, tape up the packing around the brakes and ends of the axles, and send it out in a new box.

And true, there are two sides to every store. The P.O. of my Duster told me that he drove the car. But when the car arrived the front suspension was so worn there is no way the car could have been driven. At least not safely. And the brakes were indeed 10". It just seems that one drum is 10X1.75" and the other is 10X2". And the 318 the guy told me was a good running motor when HE pulled it wasn't being untruthful when it was found that the block was cracked in the lifter valley and had a spun rod bearing. (that motor didn't come from a FABO member, but am "upstanding" member of the local Mopar club of which I'm a past Prez, VP, activities director, and been a member of for 20 years)

And again, there were other parts I bough that weren't as advertised, but it really doesn't matter. As I said, nothing good will come of this.
 
Here,s one for ya.I donated to a member to finish and keep his car,only for him to finish it and sell it and make money.What about members donations?They were given for him to keep his car!?That,s just not right,I feel taken advantage of!Rant over.:stop:
 
I am really sorry to hear all this.

Very sad :(

Dont worry,what goes around,comes around....
 
pettybludart said:
Here,s one for ya.I donated to a member to finish and keep his car,only for him to finish it and sell it and make money.What about members donations?They were given for him to keep his car!?That,s just not right,I feel taken advantage of!Rant over.:stop:
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I think you win....

not that this is a contest that anyone would WANT to win
 
pettybludart said:
Here,s one for ya.I donated to a member to finish and keep his car,only for him to finish it and sell it and make money.What about members donations?They were given for him to keep his car!?That,s just not right,I feel taken advantage of!Rant over.:stop:
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Who done that!??

Pm me if you want...
 
pettybludart said:
Here,s one for ya.I donated to a member to finish and keep his car,only for him to finish it and sell it and make money.What about members donations?They were given for him to keep his car!?That,s just not right,I feel taken advantage of!Rant over.:stop:
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If your speaking about my car you need to take a big step back. I never finished my car and sold it for next to nothing to pay the rent. Ive also sold guitars, amps and have mt truck up for sale which will leave me walking as I look for a job but at least my children will eat for another week.

I would have loved to keep all mt stuff, including my job. Ive done nothing but struggle for the last 6 years to keep what Ive own including this site.
 
hopefully adam will find work soon.
68 will get his parts. just sent him a pm.
and xmas is rite around the corner. yay
 
"And the brakes were indeed 10". It just seems that one drum is 10X1.75" and the other is 10X2"

Hey 68,
I'm the member who sold you those brakes and axles aren't I?
If so i could have swore that I mentioned that the drums didn't match before I sold them to you....however if I did indeed failed to mention that then you and the new owner of them have my sincerest apology!

Correction, I just went through all my past PM's about this sale and I didn't see any mention of the mismatched drums in there so It is entirely my mistake. Once again I apologize.
 
drp2671. Thank you for being enough of a man to own up to that. I would venture a guess its a totally honest mistake. Sounds like alot of mistakes were made in that transaction. 68 sedan.. I have never seen anyone buy parts and not look the goods recieved a year later.... that seems odd. But sounds like you have already repremanded yourself for not looking at what you purchased. I am sure that if it was checked in a timely manner the mistake could have been remedied.... a year later... you have no clout. If drp2671 steps up I would be suprised... at least he mans up to it. 68 Sedan.... perhaps cars are not your hobby ? dunno... seems like you have not had the best time with them.

I dont know about the rest of you when I hear stories over and over about
"so I got screwed again" from another member then it turns out to be solved and a honest mistake. It flat pisses me off that someone vents without thinking. I sell lots of parts online... here and other places. So far I have only had (1) incedent where the customer wasnt happy. Ya know what ? It was his fault and I still told him to keep the parts and I refunded him. He was happy and turned around he is now one of my better customers.

alot goes into a sales transaction. seller and buyer both need involved.

-RPM
 
Thanks for saying something drp, cause I really didn't remember who I got them from.

Yes, again I should have looked the parts over when I got them. But in my defense they were packed nice and compactly in a box, and I wasn't going to need them for months (or at all as it turns out). There didn't seem to be a reason to unpack them and make my parts storage problem any worse than it already is. So I left them where they were.

As far as cars "not being my thing", I don't think that's the case. (this will sound stupid but...) I was born on Halloween, and all kinds of screwed up things happen to me. "Snatching defeat from the jaws of Victory through no fault of my own" as I put it. I've bought and sold tons of parts and many cars over the years, and never took a lickin till I got here.

The Duster is a prime example. The guy I bought it from lied about the true condition of the car. And while I've gotten and accept the apology about the brakes, "I'm" still the one holding the bag on this. It's actually a double screwup on my part. I estimated the weight (no bathroom scale here) so I didn't have to load the stuff up, and drive it in to town to the "pack & mail" (the only place to ship from) to get a quote. So when I DID take them in to be shipped, the weight was much more than what I thoug. That made the shipping much more than I quoted, which means I lost my *** on this deal.

But did I stop there? Should I have contacted the buyer and say "I screwed up, send me more money"? No, I didn't. I did the RIGHT thing and shipped the parts. I'm a big enough man to admit I screwed up and run with it. I gave him a price. He agreed and paid me. So I shipped the parts anyway, knowing that I was loosing out. Cause that's what men do.

So at this point there is no discussion of the shipping discrepancy with the buyer. I've just lost about $30 on this deal. AND I'm gonna try to find him a drum to match one or the other so he has the SET he paid for.

cause that's what men do. They do what's right. Anything else, they're just a pussy in my book
 
Thats right..

A mans only good for his word.
If he cant keep hes word, hes good for nothing.
 
68 Sedan said:
If my original post had been read, you would see that all the PMs I had archived are lost. I cannot check them, and I do not remember who I got the parts from. And I suppose there is an outside chance they made an error. BUT, the guy I bought the parts from packed the stuff up. All I did was remove it all from one box, tape up the packing around the brakes and ends of the axles, and send it out in a new box.

And true, there are two sides to every store. The P.O. of my Duster told me that he drove the car. But when the car arrived the front suspension was so worn there is no way the car could have been driven. At least not safely. And the brakes were indeed 10". It just seems that one drum is 10X1.75" and the other is 10X2". And the 318 the guy told me was a good running motor when HE pulled it wasn't being untruthful when it was found that the block was cracked in the lifter valley and had a spun rod bearing. (that motor didn't come from a FABO member, but am "upstanding" member of the local Mopar club of which I'm a past Prez, VP, activities director, and been a member of for 20 years)

And again, there were other parts I bough that weren't as advertised, but it really doesn't matter. As I said, nothing good will come of this.
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sorry for your luck but you should have opened the shipment, Im thinking maybe when you got it? and not a year later! Am I out of line?
 
68 sedan sorry to hear about your problem the ac parts i bought from you were exactly as described so it sucks to hear you were misled good luck
 
at least the party came forward about the brakes, i would like to thank them for being honest. i have a friend who is a member here that got the short end of the deal when he tried to purchase a car from another member. and to be fair, i understand the sellers point of view in my friends case, but the seller could have tried to compromise a bit. anyway, while there is no doubt some bad seeds in every apple, i would like to point a good one. i am in need of headliner bows for my project. i purchased them from racingduster, who was sending them thru the post office. of course my former employer, the post office did what they do best and lost them. racingduster, without me asking, sent me a pm wanting my address again so he could refund my money....68 sedan, i do feel bad for you. i really think that when a fellow member sticks it to one of us, we should deal with the problem privately, and no matter what the outcome be allowed to post the outcome so that others might not get burned by the same person. i know it might not help, but it might make people be a bit more honest....
 
As I've said, I didn't remember who I got the parts from. I don't remember who I bought the Duster from for that matter. So there wasn't a way to do anything privately. You will also notice I haven't asked the gent I got those parts from to "pony up" and make it right.

HOWEVER, another member has sent me a PM asking what I need. (which is just one drum to match) Hopefully he has one. If so I plan on having him ship it directly to the gent I sold the parts to so he will have what he thought he was buying (and what I thought I was selling him)

My intent with the post was to vent. It wasn't to guilt anyone who has (purposely or inadvertently) wronged me in to "doing the right thing" and make things right.

However, I know there are members who don't think much of me because I'm opinionated, direct, and sometimes quite brash. And while I do dish it out to those who deserve it, I'm not that simple. If I'm wrong, I'll say so. And if there is something I need to take care of, I'll do that too. I like to think I'm honest and honorable, which is why I'm going to take care of my buyer. But not everyone is like that.

like I said. I needed to vent
 
I think there is often a HUGE difference in peoples opinions of what "good condition" is. I got bit on a "frame off restoration" early bronco. The guys work was pathetic at best and I had driven 200 + miles towing a trailer and brought an employee on the payroll with me. To top it off, the lying SOB is a lawyer...go figure.......
 
68 Sedan said:
As I've said, I didn't remember who I got the parts from. I don't remember who I bought the Duster from for that matter. So there wasn't a way to do anything privately. You will also notice I haven't asked the gent I got those parts from to "pony up" and make it right.

HOWEVER, another member has sent me a PM asking what I need. (which is just one drum to match) Hopefully he has one. If so I plan on having him ship it directly to the gent I sold the parts to so he will have what he thought he was buying (and what I thought I was selling him)

My intent with the post was to vent. It wasn't to guilt anyone who has (purposely or inadvertently) wronged me in to "doing the right thing" and make things right.

However, I know there are members who don't think much of me because I'm opinionated, direct, and sometimes quite brash. And while I do dish it out to those who deserve it, I'm not that simple. If I'm wrong, I'll say so. And if there is something I need to take care of, I'll do that too. I like to think I'm honest and honorable, which is why I'm going to take care of my buyer. But not everyone is like that.

like I said. I needed to vent
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Tem,
If you need any help with fixing this problem like reimbursement of shipping or replacement cost of a drum just PM me,

In my defense though all the parts I sold you came off the same rear end.
I had been tripping over that thing in my garage for about fifteen years....
I bought the complete rear end back in the early-mid nineties for my duster project back then....I ended up getting rid that car but I held on to the 8 3/4 .

I know that one drum was visually different from the other but I just thought one was an aftermarket replacement or something. You did ask me if they were 9 or 10 inch drums which I measured, I just failed to measure the width cause I just "assumed" they were the same since those were the drums that were on it when i bought it. It was an honest mistake, but it was still my mistake, so like I said if there is anything I can do to help fix this please let me know.
 
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