First 'Major' ticket

My son, not long after getting his license, got rung up for 86mph in a 55mph zone(claimed late for work, limited access highway, 3 lanes each way).

Now the insurance company will flat out drop a young driver for that kind of speed. He got a traffic attorney(~$600)went in before the judge, officer agrees to DROP ALL CHARGES, provided my son completes the "Red Program". Now the Red Program is a Saturday 8 hour program in which they scare the living sh_t out of youngsters, with classes, movies, and visits to trauma centers to see what speeding can cause. He came home white as a ghost, vowing never to speed again(yeah, right).

Went back to judge, judge still hit him for 61 in a 55, no points, $100.

Luckily, Pennsylvania is the only state that does NOT allow local police to use radar, only the state boys are allowed to use it. The locals cannot use, at this time, anything that measures you while THEY are in motion. Has to be a speed trap set up on the road(vascar, VSP, etc). Personally, from my times in New England, with those idiots up there using the rolling radar, I think it's fund raising only.

But then again, @54, I don't feel the need to speed anymore. I just go no more than 10 over the limit(locals are FORBIDDEN by the state from pulling you over unless it is over 10 mph over the limit)and on the Interstates, no more than about 6 or 7 mph over the limit(pa staties have to give 10% for speedometer error). I put my 65 Barracuda into a field one night, drunk @110 mph and car and driver both lived to drive another day, that scared me slower.

FF