So much for that toyota quality..

Can't say I feal sorry for them. I think if they want to add all that electronic crap to a car thats fine. As long as they still have a few models around that are still basic. I don't like paying for all that extra stuff that I never use any way and all it does is brake and not work after a few years.

I agree 100 percent.
This is why I evicted the EFI from my dakota.

with the great carbs and ignitions on the market today, who needs electronic anything? I sure dont.

There are exceptions though. I would never try to run my caliber on a carb. lol