So much for that toyota quality..

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George R said:
201000 miles. Other than brakes, water pump, tires, clutch, batteries and other wear items, it is all original.
Original starter, alternator, radiator, fuel injectors, sheet metal, wheel cylinders, brake lines, exhaust system, doesn't burn any oil and the A/C still works.
I'll NEVER own a foreign car, and won't allow anyone living in the house to own one either.
And before anyone gets the bright idea...........the VIN plate says Chrysler Corporation.

George
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hell a chrysler is probably more foreign then a toyota. mexico and canada aren't the USA last i checked..lmao. hell from what 98-07 chrysler was german for god sakes. now, who the hell knows what it is exactly.
 
abodyjoe said:
hell a chrysler is probably more foreign then a toyota. mexico and canada aren't the USA last i checked..lmao. hell from what 98-07 chrysler was german for god sakes. now, who the hell knows what it is exactly.
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The 90 pickup was made in the Dodge Truck plant here in the USA, called "Dodge City". The original stereo was manufactured at Chrysler Audio in Troy Alabama. I don't know if they're still in operation, but they were in 1990.

George
 
abodyjoe said:
the 90 pick up...lol. ...i'm talking about the new stuff.
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Yep.
However, regardless of WHERE a vehicle is made has nothing to do with what country OWNS the company. Now, Toyota's might be made here in the US, but the profit's from that sale go overseas. Buy a GM or a Ford (and Mopar is only half foreign owned BTW) the profits STAY HERE. There is a HUGE difference.
Joe, you're a great dude, and have been VERY helpful in the past so I want to make sure you know I am not arguing with you, simply conversing.

George
 
WHERE a vehicle is made has nothing to do with what country OWNS the company
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ummm chrylser was foreign from 98-07. germans owned it did they not?

Toyota's might be made here in the US, but the profit's from that sale go overseas. Buy a GM or a Ford (and Mopar is only half foreign owned BTW) the profits STAY HERE. There is a HUGE difference.
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tell that to the hundred of thousands of employees of foreign car companies here in america. how many dealers did chrysler recently close? i can count like four right off the top of my head in my area alone. i see those foreign car companies putting food on american families plates every day. no?

so lets kick the foreign cars out of the country. then what? i'll tell ya what happens. first we have a ton more out of work then we do now, then if the only choice we have is a mopar, gm or ford then we go back to the garbage those three gave us all through the 70's and into the early 80's which is what changed generations of families to foreign cars in the first place. the compition is what made the american three improve the way they did in the late 80's until now. you can't argue that. you really think they would have improved if they wern't losing sales because buyers went elsewhere?..

like i said earlier and in the past. buy what you have had good luck with and good experiences with. for you maybe it was a chrysler product. for me, i have bought new chrysler products in 92,93 and a almost new 07 in 09 and they have been total garbage, horrible times having to deal with the dealers, the damn things have been to the dealer for repairs more in 6 months then any toyota i have owned in its life span.. argue about that all you want. but those are my experiences and facts of my owning experiences. this last time around i figured maybe chrysler changed their act a little since 93. nope. same old bull ****. i will never buy another new chrysler product again. they lost me all by themselves. how many chances am i supposed to give them? i work hard for my money and am not spending it on something that is going to constantly give me a headache. i'll stick to my toyota's and live headache free thank you very much..


(and Mopar is only half foreign owned BTW)
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so only 50% of your money goes over sees? thats ok then? come on man. thats a bad argument. i would have more respect for the argument if ya were saying buy a ford or gm because they are american owned. gotta leave chrysler out of the argument man. even at 50% foreign owned makes it too foreign doesn't it?. infact the argument should be to only buy a ford because they didn't take that bailout money. gotta look past the pentastar that means nothing these days man...
 
Thats right baby go buy a Ford...truck that is ,only make i'll ever own..my '01 is still going strong,and looks damn good hauling my duster around:thumblef::thumblef:
 
I showed up this morning to find out if anyone had posted the "model cars" on flicker.
I see that has been done already.

This thread caught my attention.
I remember the “accelerator” getting “stuck” on a 65 Coronet that I was driving in high school.
Well, maybe it wasn’t as bad. Probably just the choke linkage.
**** happens
Lots of bla bla bla on here about which car is better.
Too bad they don’t make them like they used to, anymore.
(I'm being redundant, again)

Anyway.
Have we all not heard the 911 tapes?
I scanned this tread with the hope of finding out why people died.
Except for a comment on the first page, I didn’t see anything about why people died.
I didn’t get any usable information.
I’m just as ignorant as before.
(Don’t say it)
I still dont' know the facts.
What kind of car can’t be taken out of gear?
What kind of car can’t be stopped by stepping on the brake?
Has the world has gone mad.
Or are people really that stupid?
I don’t mean the car designers.
I mean the people behind the wheel.

I remain,
A driver.
 
Any one on here that has a Toyota and is worried and wants to get rid of it because its worth less now email me and i'll come pick it up, Thanks.


Toyota is still the best build cars/trucks on the road I'll take all you can give me.
 
stroked 340 said:
Thats right baby go buy a Ford...truck that is ,only make i'll ever own..my '01 is still going strong,and looks damn good hauling my duster around:thumblef::thumblef:
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that hoagie wagon has to be hauled every where because its not able to drive there...lol
 
I had a 98 Ford F150 that had the same problem with the gas pedal. First time it happened to me I was driving our baby sitter home. I was entering onto a highway from an exit ramp and floored it to catch up with the traffic. It remained floored. I had all my weight on the brake and it was still moving. Scary feeling!! Yah I know there's a lot of things I could have done. So finally I got the baby sitter to reach under my feet and pull the pedal back up. Must have looked pretty funny to passers-by though - brakes on ,engine screaming, baby sitters head bobbing up and down on my side of the truck).
 
Okay guys, I am going to throw in just a little bit more.

The Prius problem is just a delay before the brakes apply. Guess what, Ford Hybrids do the same thing and Ford just did a (recall) that they are calling a customer satisfaction campane to fix the problem. So its not just Toyota.

Adriver.
From what I know about the accident is, it was a Lexus and the floor mat is actually what caused the problem. The guy driving had enough common sense to call 911 ant tell them his car was speeding out of control. However, he nor the 911 operator had the sense to think to pull the floor mat off of the peddle. He didn't hold the brakes down, shut the key off, but in N, or anything else. Reports are that he got going between 120 and 130 before he crashed the car. It killed all that where in the car. This is the story I have heard numerous times.

1wild&crazy guy,
Have you ever drove a new Tundra? Perhaps, the reason the peddle sticks on them is because they are so fun to drive. I know when I am driving them, the peddle is stuck to the floor, then again so is my foot and I have a smile from ear to ear. Just yesterday, I did a dealer trade to Boise, ID. I drove over 700 miles in a new Tundra and was pulling a trailer with a Honda CR-V on it for over 620 of those miles. I got about 14 MPG and trust me, I wasn't going slow. As stupid as I am, I hit 95 multiple times with the trailer coming home. Theres a hill heading east by Glens Ferry (anyone that has driven from Boise, ID to Twin Falls, ID will know it), I went all the way up that hill at 75 with the trailer. The 5.7 V8 is a incredible engine. So should they have stuck to small cars? I think not. I think they are doing just like any other company wants to do, EXPAND!

I am going to agree with someone that said that money from Toyota stays in the states. I have been paid by Toyota for the last five years, I can tell you many other people that have too. Sure, profits leave the country. But how about all you Hot Wheels or model car collectors? All that money leaves the states. Sure, they are only a few bucks each, but look at the volume of them sold compared to real cars. Some people are going to complain about the car industry for no other reason than to complain. I have a friend that works at a GM dealer that told me that it was sack religious to work at a Toyota dealer, guess who got layed off? Not me. This whole debate has a few good points from each side, but overall. I wouldn't spend my hard earned money on a new pile of junk Dodge, GM, or Ford. On a side note, if any of you own a 1997-2004 Dakota, please let me know what problems you have had with it. I have the chance to buy one for a good price and would like to know what I would be getting myself into.

Jeremy
 
Everyone who has not checked their vehicle out on the site nhtsa.gov/ needs to. Lets take for instance the Dodge Dakota, just a quick search turned up issues with airbags accidentally deploying, structural bolt failures and multiple brake system hyd. failures (not exactly something you can just put the vehicle in neutral to solve an unsafe situation). Again it all comes down to how many recalls and how the company handles it. If the media listed all known recalls your nightly news would last till the A.M. news!
 
J-MacsMopars said:
Okay guys, I am going to throw in just a little bit more.

The Prius problem is just a delay before the brakes apply. Guess what, Ford Hybrids do the same thing and Ford just did a (recall) that they are calling a customer satisfaction campane to fix the problem. So its not just Toyota.

Adriver.
From what I know about the accident is, it was a Lexus and the floor mat is actually what caused the problem. The guy driving had enough common sense to call 911 ant tell them his car was speeding out of control. However, he nor the 911 operator had the sense to think to pull the floor mat off of the peddle. He didn't hold the brakes down, shut the key off, but in N, or anything else. Reports are that he got going between 120 and 130 before he crashed the car. It killed all that where in the car. This is the story I have heard numerous times.

1wild&crazy guy,
Have you ever drove a new Tundra? Perhaps, the reason the peddle sticks on them is because they are so fun to drive. I know when I am driving them, the peddle is stuck to the floor, then again so is my foot and I have a smile from ear to ear. Just yesterday, I did a dealer trade to Boise, ID. I drove over 700 miles in a new Tundra and was pulling a trailer with a Honda CR-V on it for over 620 of those miles. I got about 14 MPG and trust me, I wasn't going slow. As stupid as I am, I hit 95 multiple times with the trailer coming home. Theres a hill heading east by Glens Ferry (anyone that has driven from Boise, ID to Twin Falls, ID will know it), I went all the way up that hill at 75 with the trailer. The 5.7 V8 is a incredible engine. So should they have stuck to small cars? I think not. I think they are doing just like any other company wants to do, EXPAND!

I am going to agree with someone that said that money from Toyota stays in the states. I have been paid by Toyota for the last five years, I can tell you many other people that have too. Sure, profits leave the country. But how about all you Hot Wheels or model car collectors? All that money leaves the states. Sure, they are only a few bucks each, but look at the volume of them sold compared to real cars. Some people are going to complain about the car industry for no other reason than to complain. I have a friend that works at a GM dealer that told me that it was sack religious to work at a Toyota dealer, guess who got layed off? Not me. This whole debate has a few good points from each side, but overall. I wouldn't spend my hard earned money on a new pile of junk Dodge, GM, or Ford. On a side note, if any of you own a 1997-2004 Dakota, please let me know what problems you have had with it. I have the chance to buy one for a good price and would like to know what I would be getting myself into.

Jeremy
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I have a 97 dodge 1500 laramie 4x4, runs great with 206k original miles.
My only complaint is that is shifts like a chevy=mushy overlaping feeling, but I will soon toss a valve body kit into it and fixed!
 
MoparLvr said:
I had a 98 Ford F150 that had the same problem with the gas pedal. First time it happened to me I was driving our baby sitter home. I was entering onto a highway from an exit ramp and floored it to catch up with the traffic. It remained floored. I had all my weight on the brake and it was still moving. Scary feeling!! Yah I know there's a lot of things I could have done. So finally I got the baby sitter to reach under my feet and pull the pedal back up. Must have looked pretty funny to passers-by though - brakes on ,engine screaming, baby sitters head bobbing up and down on my side of the truck).
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HA !
 
J-MacsMopars said:
Okay guys, I am going to throw in just a little bit more.

The Prius problem is just a delay before the brakes apply. Guess what, Ford Hybrids do the same thing and Ford just did a (recall) that they are calling a customer satisfaction campane to fix the problem. So its not just Toyota.

Adriver.
From what I know about the accident is, it was a Lexus and the floor mat is actually what caused the problem. The guy driving had enough common sense to call 911 ant tell them his car was speeding out of control. However, he nor the 911 operator had the sense to think to pull the floor mat off of the peddle. He didn't hold the brakes down, shut the key off, but in N, or anything else. Reports are that he got going between 120 and 130 before he crashed the car. It killed all that where in the car. This is the story I have heard numerous times.

1wild&crazy guy,
Have you ever drove a new Tundra? Perhaps, the reason the peddle sticks on them is because they are so fun to drive. I know when I am driving them, the peddle is stuck to the floor, then again so is my foot and I have a smile from ear to ear. Just yesterday, I did a dealer trade to Boise, ID. I drove over 700 miles in a new Tundra and was pulling a trailer with a Honda CR-V on it for over 620 of those miles. I got about 14 MPG and trust me, I wasn't going slow. As stupid as I am, I hit 95 multiple times with the trailer coming home. Theres a hill heading east by Glens Ferry (anyone that has driven from Boise, ID to Twin Falls, ID will know it), I went all the way up that hill at 75 with the trailer. The 5.7 V8 is a incredible engine. So should they have stuck to small cars? I think not. I think they are doing just like any other company wants to do, EXPAND!

I am going to agree with someone that said that money from Toyota stays in the states. I have been paid by Toyota for the last five years, I can tell you many other people that have too. Sure, profits leave the country. But how about all you Hot Wheels or model car collectors? All that money leaves the states. Sure, they are only a few bucks each, but look at the volume of them sold compared to real cars. Some people are going to complain about the car industry for no other reason than to complain. I have a friend that works at a GM dealer that told me that it was sack religious to work at a Toyota dealer, guess who got layed off? Not me. This whole debate has a few good points from each side, but overall. I wouldn't spend my hard earned money on a new pile of junk Dodge, GM, or Ford. On a side note, if any of you own a 1997-2004 Dakota, please let me know what problems you have had with it. I have the chance to buy one for a good price and would like to know what I would be getting myself into.

Jeremy
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You might trying digging a little further for you facts toyopet, the floor mats were in the trunk of the lexus that an offduty hiway patrolman was driving. If a trained hiway patrolman couldn't get it stopped, who can?
The reason you are driving that turdra on the floor, is due to the lack of power. My boy raced one last season at test-n-tune. his quad cab 2004 HEMI with a 130k on it showed that i-farce turdra his tail lights on all three rounds. 15.40 to 16.75. You just need to step up, drive a HEMI! Now thats a great engine!
 
Toyota turdra..i like that one..lol........:toothy10::toothy10::toothy10::toothy10:
 
Well, all I am going to say now is, no matter what is said, people are going to disagree. This debate is going nowhere. So what if the guy was a cop. Cops are human just like you and I and can panic in situations. He couldn't stop it? Why not put the car in nuetral? Even if the engine blew up. It would be taken care of by the dealer. No matter what you say or think, he could have stopped the car if he would have thought instead of panic.
 
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