To stroke or not to stroke......

I am sorry you took offense BJR, was not the intent, and I most certainly was not "po'd" . As you said, we can disagree, one of the things that does make the US a great country indeed. I just dislike when someone comes on and says " I put joe blow racing cam, super john racing pistons in and ran a million miles an hour on crap gas" (being facetious intentionaly) because truthfully, I find it hard to believe and it really serves nobody well, when the idea of a bbs like this is to share info and ideas, which is what you say you want to do. That is why I asked about your combo. If you did it, beutiful, but don't get all offended if someone wants details. Maybe someone else out here in never never land would like to duplicate it. They say imitation is the greatest form of flatery. Also I was not "attempting to compete" on the contrary again, I was merly asking about how you did what you claim to have done. I can say I climbed Mt. Everest or dove to the bottom of the ocean or flew to the moon, if I can't back it up with details it's all just so much BS. And :wack:

Having engineering friends is just great, I have many myself (several who are so smart they cant tie their own shoes. No, really, I am serious). :munky2:

I wont even get into an engineering disscusion as I just dont type fast enough to bother, the info is out there to be had by anyone who is dilagent enough to search for it. I do have to apoligize for my inacurate bore-to-stroke ratio, I took it straight from, you guessed it, an engineers book regarding performance building of the small block mopars, and as it turns out, he either had a brain fart, typo'd, or as I said about my own engineering friends, is so damned smart that he actually forgot the proper math of bore/stroke=ratio. Gosh, I guess them engineers can make mistakes too, eh? (I probably should have double checked it before posting it, but it was late (yes, I said late, I had already been awake for 20 hours at that point so I never realized it was wrong) and I was tired. **** happens. Which by the way, after rechecking the math, makes the true b/s ratio to be 1.117.. and a r/s ratio of 1.71 with a stock rod of 6.123, stock bore of 4.0 and stock stroke of 3.58. A stroker with a 4.0 crank and bore and same stock rods would be at a ratio of 1.1 and would have a r/s ratio of 1.53, which if you want to bring those engineers back into play, means squat actually. I will qoute an engineer that I am certain you know of at least even if you havn't met him and talked to him in person, his name Larry Shepard, the qoute "There is NO IDEAL rod ratio. The lower the rod ratio, the more torque the engine will make." So to say that rod ratio is "bad" in a stroker engine is wrong statement. Key thing to consider in rod ratio is placement of the little end of the rod in the piston, as a longer rod requires the pin to be moved higher up in the piston limiting and/or limited by oil control ring placement. But by moving to a longer rod to improve rod ratio you would reduce piston weight (usually a good thing) and would reduce the side loading of piston and cylinder walls you are so concerned with but would increase issues with piston rock. As I said, I believe a properly thought out and executed stroker can be done for just a little more (a relitive term actually) tha a stock build, and will perform better in a dual purpose machine. But as you said, we can agree to disagree.

On a final note though, I am seriously taken aback by your "I am greater than thou" attitude (smells alot like other holier than thous from another A body forum that I will leave namless as I am just as offended by some of their memebers attitudes and I will not leed anybody to a forum full of people who are so full of themselves they are blinded to reality), really unbecoming of someone who claims to have been racing longer than I have been alive, which you have not. I have been alive a much longer than 30 years. I am sure you do build fairly decent engines, and probably do well, but a holyier than thow attitude sure as heck wont get anybody to believe what you have to say, and may well drive some to seek info/advice else where, and would certainly not lead me or others to want to suggest your advice or services to anybody. Being so old and wise you should have learned that by now. :thumbup: Seems to be a character flaw with guys in your age bracket though, I guess. My old man seems to have that attitude about some things now and again and it tickles me to no end when he runs off on how brilliant and smart he is about something and I or someone younger than I succesfully demonstrate him to be wrong, tends to shut him up quick. Don't get me wrong, he is (and you may well be, I know I am) very intelligent, but, he is human and can be wrong sometimes (as can you, and so can I) so don't be so full of yourself that you insult others who may know alot more than you give them credit for. Please continue to share your wealth of info, but do it in a more apropriate, to your age, way and realize that not everybodies an idiot just because your old.

Glad to see we can debate the subject though as it sure drags the info out for others to chew on. :angel9: