650 or 750 holley

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Snake

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Ok my 600 holley on my 318 in my mind is not going to do the job on m,y new 360.I do want more cfms so I am leaning towards the 750 vac.I am good at tuneing thease carbs.I will jet down on the prims to 67 and 70 in the secs.What are you guys useing 650-750.
 
I see no reason why a 750 would do you wrong... as a matter of fact, MP recomends them on their crate motors. But I still think a 600 would be sufficent unless your not worried about MPG's, in which case, go for it!
 
both should work fine.i ran a 650 dp on my 340 with goods results.the new summit carbs are basically a holley 4010,and they come with annular boosters which help atomization/throttle response and i think they have a 750 cfm version they sell for a good price.
 
MPG no sweet lol I have a pic at a DP or vac set up but havent decieded yet.I like the fact with a DP you nail it and its there.
 
I wouldn't do anything until after you try the 360 with the 600 Holley. I ran one for almost two years on a 360 and the engine made 370 HP with it. I am running a 670 now and have tried a 725 and 750. The 725 and 750 made no more power than the 670 by the butt dyno.

Unless you are building a all out motor that will be turning in excess of 6000 rpm regularly you just don't need a 750 and it won't have the response in the low mid range where you drive on the street that the smaller carb will have.
 
my 360 picked up big time on the low and hi end with a well tuned 750 dp over the well tuned 600 dp. over 5k rpms i was starting to pull 2.5 to 3" vac which is a sure sign that my 360 need more cfm, even at 3k it was pulling 1.5"s this is in a 420hp 360
 
I'd go with the 750 but if its primarily a street car i'd use a 750 w/ vacuum secondaries..
 
good input boys,the thing with a 650 or 750 its easy to chance jets were the 600 has that dam o ring to deal with.
 
ya i am with ram on this one 750 re jet and all the good tuneing stuff.how many knew to open up your rear secs to give better idel contoill.
 
750 DP on my 360.... love it! It's also good to note that Vac secondaries do better on automatics and manual secondaries do better on manual transmissions.
 
You will here some say use the smaller carb if your not turning over such & such RPMs, there is alot more involved then just "that", you have to take into consideration of the intake/cam/heads/gears/stall/exhaust, most think a larger "primary" will give less power/torque & throttle responce, this is not always the case, if your running a fairly stock 360 with a stock stall & gears then yes, the smaller primaries will do much better, when you take into account the added gearing & better stall, intake design (more plenum area), the increased RPMs at a lower MPH (not just total RPMs), the larger primary carb works better all around, you'll get better throttle responce/excelleration/mid & top end power.

Duletch ( i think thats how you say it) tested this theory out on a 383, by the time he was done, he increased HP & torque big time going from a 500 or 600 CFM too an 850 Mighty Demon that flowed over 900 CFM, & this 383 was on the mild side, just your basic street engine, if i'm not mistaken, he increased the HP by 50+ & torque around 30 just from carb changes, the only thing was the torque dropped a tad in the RPM range with the Mighty Demon, but it increased enough to make it a better choice from the previous carb.
 
750 is were I will go.Almost had my 600 sold today but this guy is running a 350 chev with after market intake with the rodchester bolt up.To bad.I think I will break in my 360 with the 600 than install the 750 laiter.
 
750 DP. Shoot, what's the CFM rating on a Thermoquad that they put on a STOCK 318 or 360?!? Leave the 600's for the cruise night boys.
 
The 750 Holley vac sec. is a real good street carb. and usually jetted real close right out of the box. But as mentioned every combo is different and of course the more radical the more carb needed. I've ran both a 670 and 750 on my 360 and the 750 definitely felt stronger but didn't show more 1/4 speed. I then tried a 750 DP and it ran stronger yet. Picked up 3 mph in the 1/4 according to the speedo.

BTW: that was just back road testing where I have a 1/4 mile marked off, not at a track, so take it at what that's worth.
 
750 DP. Shoot, what's the CFM rating on a Thermoquad that they put on a STOCK 318 or 360?!? Leave the 600's for the cruise night boys.

You can't compare a Thermoquad to a square bore carb. The thermoquad has tiny primary venturis that provide very crisp throttle response and the secondaries never fully opened on a stock 318 or 340's so the overall rating of the carb was never utilized.
 
750 DP. Shoot, what's the CFM rating on a Thermoquad that they put on a STOCK 318 or 360?!? Leave the 600's for the cruise night boys.

Thermoquad..more commonly refered to as Thermo-bog,plastic carburetor..lol..
 
You will here some say use the smaller carb if your not turning over such & such RPMs, there is alot more involved then just "that", you have to take into consideration of the intake/cam/heads/gears/stall/exhaust, most think a larger "primary" will give less power/torque & throttle responce, this is not always the case, if your running a fairly stock 360 with a stock stall & gears then yes, the smaller primaries will do much better, when you take into account the added gearing & better stall, intake design (more plenum area), the increased RPMs at a lower MPH (not just total RPMs), the larger primary carb works better all around, you'll get better throttle responce/excelleration/mid & top end power.

Duletch ( i think thats how you say it) tested this theory out on a 383, by the time he was done, he increased HP & torque big time going from a 500 or 600 CFM too an 850 Mighty Demon that flowed over 900 CFM, & this 383 was on the mild side, just your basic street engine, if i'm not mistaken, he increased the HP by 50+ & torque around 30 just from carb changes, the only thing was the torque dropped a tad in the RPM range with the Mighty Demon, but it increased enough to make it a better
choice from the previous carb.

although Joe makes a good point, you have to know what it is your looking for....Even though Dulcich might have picked up an average of more hp and tq, it may have suffered down low. You need to look at what area of the powerband your going to be operating in at most, and of course like joe said what is done to the motor to match it up. Snake, im gonna guess that if this is a street cruiser with a mild setup your gonna want a good mix of power and throttle response, so id go with a 650vs carb
 
750 dp carb (mechanical secondary carb)
>> The 4 corner idle is only on the 750 and 850 dp carbs.(4 screws)

all other double pumpers have only primary idle screws(2 screws)
A 750 dp is one of the best carbs ever made and works on everything, so in the future if you build a new motor it will work on that to.

Mine is set up on my 318 like this >>>>>>>>>
69 front jets
78 rear jets
4.5 power valve
40 shot in front
35 shot in rear
1 inch four hole spacer
Front pump cam in hole 1 on carb and hole two on the cam it self.
Rear pump cam is in hole 1 on carb and hole one on cam.

I keep the accelerator arms a little looser then stock and it works good.
This is the set up i use on my 360 bracket car engine and the only difference is the jet's.
Buy a brand new one and don't look back.
I just sold my new 750 dp off my 360 to my friend because the cheaper 750 vacume carb he just bought new ,would not idle with his motor, because at idle it was way to lean.(metering plate)

I had the idle screws all the way out and it ran like ****.

I sold my 750 dp to him, and went over and set it up on the car and it ran perfect \\\ the idle screws were turned out only about 1 turn.

Holley puts a leaner metering plate in there cheaper carbs and they just don't work as good as there 750 and 850 double pumper carbs.
I ordered a 700 carb and sent it back because it was a total different carb then the 750 double pumper carb.
I bit the bullet and bought a 750 hp series instead.
In a hp series a 650 has a 4 corner idle and has a good flowing metering plate and would work great on a 318,but i don't think i could justify spending all that money on a street 318.

A regular 750 double pumper works so good on my 318 that if you were to take it for a cruise, you would see it has no dead spots, and is easy to drive slow or fast.
Oh buy the way i bought the 750 i run on my 318 in 1996 for my 360 bracket car ,and it still works perfect, so now it's on my 318.:cya:
 
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