This thread has popped up before several times...I told someone before to take a 187 pan....weld in some oil baffles inside of it....cut the bottom of the pan off and weld another piece of sump to the bottom of it.....have the guys running the Milodon pan take a picture with the steering wheel turned all the way to the right...I bet they have interference with the idler arm hitting the pan...JMO...mine is for sale and it does not have baffles in it...demon seed is correct