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    2.055 Speedmaster Porting Progression

    I cannot disagree with the flow vs effort opinion on the TFs. They are impressive right OOTB. Such a tiny pushrod pinch though. As far as time estimates, I can only say I have a an hour or two each day over the course of 6 days in steps 1-14. But that includes a lot of flow test and...
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    2.055 Speedmaster Porting Progression

    Working on some heads for the @NC Engine Builder cylinder head dyno testing. Engine break in and first testing is with bone stock Speedmaster heads. We also have several other out of the box heads to test, but it would also be nice to test a few modified heads. There are several modifications...
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    Harbor Freight sandblasting cabinet...

    BEST TOOL UPGRADES I added the foot pedal, metering valve and gun from this company. Big improvement over stock.
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    TF Porting

    The radius of curvature can be anything you choose to grind.
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    TF Porting

    I wish I had taken the time to investigate it more before porting the really good port. Your perspective is interesting, a bit different than mine. What I see is 4 ports that loose the short side flow at 0.550 lift and one that hangs on to the short side through 0.700 lift. Regardless of the...
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    TF Porting

    Here's all I have on stock 190 CNC Trick Flow. I remember one of PBR's posts where he talked about spending 8-10 minutes on each port to get them to flow 300-305. He never said what he found but my guess is that it's short side related.
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    TF Porting

    Tying up a few loose ends from yesterday. PRH asked about test/flow data on the TF head with the swirl vein removed. I do have a little bit of data, but it would be meaningless to post it. The port is so dissimilar from anything else that a comparison is pointless. I've just made too many...
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    TF Porting

    That's what I'm betting on.
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    TF Porting

    Agree. Then add to that the inner runner vs outer runner angle of approach.
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    TF Porting

    I could not agree more. He put a lot of information out there, for which I am quite thankful. There are little clues posted throughout his writings, but rarely all in one place.
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    TF Porting

    By the way, that TF port with the 2.08 valve is around 210-212 cc now. Most of that additional volume was needed to get flow past 0.550 back up to a respectable number. If the pinch was left smaller I think the port could be left smaller. I’m going on the assumption that the larger pinch is...
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    TF Porting

    My experience so far is that any standard location pushrod, standard low port SBM head will get increasingly inefficient after 290-300 cfm. There are just too many tight turns and area changes to navigate. Gains above 300 are an exercise in compromise. You gotta give up something to get...
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    TF Porting

    It sure is nice to see two mature individuals resolve a (small) conflict without insults and unnecessary language. Thanks guys.
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    TF Porting

    I agree with what you are saying, but I like to see other data. PBR and I would share some data, sometimes publicly, sometimes privately. We compared stock Speedmaster, Edelbrock and Trick Flow flow numbers. My bench and his agreed quite well. That doesn’t mean either one was correct, but to...
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    TF Porting

    Superflow 600. You?
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    TF Porting

    Post away. It ain’t controversy if we’re learning.
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    TF Porting

    The ‘tall apex’ is just to differentiate it from the short apex. Even the tall apex is a good bit shorter than stock. Once the 2.08 valve was in and the pushrod pinch was opened, speed in the center of the short turn was over 500 fps. The tall apex is still 440 fps in the center. The short...
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    TF Porting

    Here's an interesting comparison of 4 tests on Trick Flow Ports. Two are with a 2.02 valve and two are with a 2.08 valve. There are many points to be made here, but I'll start with three. First, look at test 1231 in green, which is a totally stock port. This port at 308 cfm is the highest...
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    SPEEDMASTER HEADS

    @Cuda416 is right on with the flow specs. My testing has a stock Speedmaster at high 240s/low 250s at 0.500 on the flow bench. Should be pretty good for a 340/360 on the street. Head would be a little small for a 400 ci+ motor. At a minimum I would clean/wash the heads good, check valve to...
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    Trick Flow heads, etc.

    Nice chamber.
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    Trick Flow heads, etc.

    I’m guessing they are a powdered metal. One or two seats will dull a new carbide cutter. Nicks/lines start showing up quickly. Chatter potential is much worse as well.
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    Trick Flow heads, etc.

    Largest gripe I have about the SM heads is the hard, hard seat material. Seats are a pleasure to cut on the ProMaxx and the TF compared to the Speedmaster.
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    Trick Flow heads, etc.

    ProMaxx casting on top. Speedmaster on the bottom.
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    Trick Flow heads, etc.

    Two different foundries. The ProMaxx is a Stephen Sun casting.
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    Trick Flow heads, etc.

    As I recall John liked the Speedmaster better than the Edelbrock, but he liked the ProMaxx better than the Speedmaster. In trying to get ready for the cylinder head challenge, I’ve run hundreds of tests on the SM, ProMaxx and TF. If ‘potential’ is the criteria, my ranking would be TF then...
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    Trick Flow heads, etc.

    I was referring to a stock 2.02 Edelbrock/SM/Promaxx vs a stock TF. There is no comparison, the TF flows more. But as you mentioned, the TF is ported. Comparing a ported 2.02 SM/Eddy to a stock TF is a different story. The TF still wins on the bench, but on the dyno or track, ?????? Same with...
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    Trick Flow heads, etc.

    I will be away from my computer/data for a few days, but 273 is correct that the TF is quite a bit stronger flowing on the bench throughout the flow range. As a matter of fact, one of the things I like about the TF is the strong mid lift flow. One of the things I want to learn with dyno testing...
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    Cylinder head dyno shoot out

    Would you please not tell him things like that for the next few months, lol.
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    Cylinder head dyno shoot out

    Does anyone know of an ‘escrow’ type of account/arrangement that would return money back to the donor if testing does not happen? Lots of things could derail these plans between now and test time.
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    Cylinder head dyno shoot out

    I had a good conversation with NC Engine Builder about this and other topics related to the testing. I’m going to address this because he will not. At the moment, he will be spending a couple of days (at least) testing and countless hours preparing for the testing. He does have some assistance...
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