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Looking great, keep us updated please.

Very nice car! Hoping to be able to place my order after my tax refund. I'm glad to see GTS finally get some recognition, very knowledgeable and friendly guy. Was the install pretty simple, and how would you rate the quality of this kit and customer service?

No kidding, apparently there are some really upset people who don't like the fact someone else is making a fabulous product, and giving people more options.

The model I got has 2 inch dropped spindles, I think the reason he uses vikings is because they're double adjustable, for the same price qa1 single plane Jane coil overs are, I also found out that viking is a split off of qa1, father/son or brothers I guess. I know he will sell by piece, my...

Have heard lots of horror stories, including a guy with a 71 challenger that had welds break when he was doing 70 on the interstate, totaled the car. Check out Gerst tubular suspensions, just bought one myself, awesome product, great reviews, and less expensive than alterkation, magnum force...

The shock towers on an rms would also hit the frame as it would be over an inch narrower than a late a body, so unless you cut the frame in half and widened it, it wouldn't even fit around the frame.

Man, tough crowd. Back to the subject now please. Haha

OK OK everyone, this is getting very heated/turning into a big pissing match it seems. I like all the kits out there (except magnum force and control freak), the thing is, yes, there's not a ton out there on gts yet, Carl flat out said that he doesn't have a website (working on it) and he...

Just sayin your wrong denny, fb him and ask him what it is, it's a gts, I personally talked to him, and seen the pictures he posted, and also sent me photos. And yes he's from ohio

And secondly, I haven't seen a single spec from denny other than track width, I've searched his site, this forum, and since you've been following so close, how many times did I ask him about bumpsteer? I couldn't even get to asking other questions because I couldn't get the first one answered...

And secondly, I haven't seen a single spec from denny other than track width, I've searched his site, this forum, and since you've been following so close, how many times did I ask him about bumpsteer? I couldn't even get to asking other questions because I couldn't get the first one answered...

I talked to him personally, and also spoke with a few guys on fb who are running his system, look them up. Dan yohe, from iowa, Dan koscis, from Pittsburg who was so impressed he's ordering a third, Eric lyndes from Ohio, those guys all absolutely love it and said they've been around all the...

After looking at these aftermarket suspensions very thoroughly, I made the choice of the GTS, it seems to know doubt be the strongest, and his geometry looks superb, good camber gain, amazing bump steer, and great suspension travel, also found out his b/e body kits have 7 inches of travel...

I spoke with Carl today from GTS, very knowledgeable, very impressed with all the insight to front end geometry, I think this is the route to go, I'm very impressed.

Well now I see why both Bill and Carl stay away from these forums, it can get pretty heated over just ones opinion

Thank you bill! As others have danced around my question of bump steer, and started making me wonder if they even know what their own specs are, you have every number, and I'm glad you touched on changing caster, how that effects bump steer, I was just getting ready to state that. And I was...

Ya, I'll try to find it, I randomly stumbled across it, I think on fb, may have been YouTube, but I'll run it down and post a link, and sounds like I get a new phone, so I'll be able to call you and a Carl Tuesday, and really get the low down.

I understand, and see why, honestly the only thing I'm really worried about is bump steer, and how much your, and the other systems have, I wish all manufactures were on here to all weigh in, and compare. I like to keep bump steer under .050 per inch of travel, but I'm also very picky, that may...

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As I'm very impressed with your setup denny, you are wrong on the brakes, wilwoods site clearly shows that, however I have seen benefits to every setup, and downs to every setup, I have to say it's between you and gt suspension, I'm curious if you can give me some numbers, as far as bump steer...

I will say, Dennys design is very nice, I know rms has been around the longest, and been time tested, gts looks very nice, and very strong, magnum force.....well, it looks like a jungle

So I guess what it boils down to is what brake package is rms, hdk, and gts using to get their hub to hub distance, that's what I'm starting to gather, I'm guessing the cheaper the brakes, the wider, (to an extent) your hub to hub is.

Yes, the video I seen was with the lower control arm level, upper control arm inclined up from the frame to the spindle, with the brakes on, as far as I know I've never even heard of someone NOT measuring to the actual hub (where the back of the rim would seat) rms offers a brakes package that...

I'll do some digging on that,I assume you're talking about the gt package, I seen a video on fb I believe of someone that had one, can't remember what brakes he's running, but he did indeed have a 58.5 hub to hub, with the travel, I believe his is adjustable like you run, which seems a lot...

I am very thorough, I'll say that, I was just curious, because I know bill from rms modifies his spindles for that exact reason, bump steer, although I'm sure it's fine, I just don't like the idea of welding to forged steel, you really have to be careful pre heating and post heating to prevent...

Also, don't you always want the lower pivot points level, because if you're changing that angle, you effectively change weather or not you have camber gain during body roll

Right, I understand all that, which brings me back, with a fixed lca pivot point, if you add a taller spindle, or an extended ball joint, you have moved the instant center, so the tre end height would HAVE to change to get your tie rod axis back to instant center, because of unequal arm...

Makes complete sense denny, and I couldn't agree more. As your changing ride height ( not by spindle, but actually adjusting your coilovers) how are you compensating the bump steer, because as your suspension travels, the instant center changes height and length.

Ok, first off, a wilwood pro spindle is taller than a regular everyday Mustang 2 spindle, so by putting one or the other on, changes the instant center, therefore changing bump steer characteristics, you can't just use a taller spindle, so if a suspension is designed based off a regular everyday...

Well I'm curious, rms uses a modified spindle, gt suspension uses a forged Mustang 2 spindle, and on here hdk says ebay spindle, his website says wilwood spindle, so which is it, I know a wilwood spindle is about .5 inches taller than a regular Mustang 2 spindle