318 - Looking for "free" power (tuning!)

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MrJLR

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Ok....I have a 74' 318 in my 68' Barracuda.
It has a stock low compression bottom end, a Hughes Whiplash cam, home ported heads, Edelbrock 1406, Doug's headers and electronic ignition.
It starts and runs pretty good. ....I just feel that I could really get a lot more out of it with tuning.
I don't know much about the process. Do I tune the carb first, then the timing or the other way around?
Don't know crap about tuning carbs....but I listen and learn!
Timing is even more mysterious to me....

I have a good timing light and if I need a tool like a vacuum gauge or whatever I'm more than willing to get one....

I feel this could actually help a LOT of members here who, like me, are just knowledgeable to make it run, but not run its best!

So....where do I start?

Jeff

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Performance tuning a non-factory setup is a journey.
The process is iterative. You may have to go back over the same ground a few times as well as a lot tests with one change at time.

Start with timing curve. Initial, then idle and the shape. Just made a couple of recent posts about initial timing and shortening the advance with a chrysler distributor. Plot the entire timing curve.

Then adjust carbs idle mix. You may have to go back and forth with the initial timing and fuel mixtures a bit. Even with the Carterbrock, the throttle position at idle is important.
Then try your high speed cruise. That should be done with vacuum advance. If it revs and dies - its too lean to cruise. If it bucks or trailer hitches, its probably way too much timing.
For wide open throttle jetting, go to a 1/4 mile drag strip. Make a couple passes. Check the spark plugs and then try a little richer and a little leaner. See what jetting gets the best mph. If you hear pinging or the plugs show tiny specs of aluminum, take some timing out.

At minimum you'll need a notebook. Write everything down. As time goes on you'll come up with your own system that you find useful. I use paper notes, and transfer some stuff to computer spreadsheet later on. For example one sheet for the carb.
 
Initial can be ballparked from here
Distributor starting point for a curve

If that suggests to start with a lot of timing, then you'll need less in the advance.
To get some idea of what works look at a factory curve, and then cut off the bottom; like shown here for a desmogged Chrysler 360
360 Tune Up

The Edelbrock Owners Manual is pretty good for tuning the various circuits.
But be aware that this illustration is misleading!
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Part throttle acceleration is leaner than cruising until close to wide open throttle.
More about that here: How lean is too lean?
 

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