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    jonn6464 1970 Duster FABO Gold Member

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    Hi FABO,

    I hope someone here can help me. I'm trying to get measurements on the "travel" of the shifter on an A833.

    Car is a '70 Duster. I'm needing to know the distance the shifter travels to engage each gear. I don't have the transmission installed, nor a shifter mounted on the trans. Otherwise, I could measure myself.

    Example... If the shifter is in Neutral, we'll say it's at 0. To get to 1st gear, left 3" and up 3". To get to 2nd gear from 1st, straight down 6". For 3rd gear from 2nd, up 3" and right 3" and up 3 ". Etc, etc. I'm not sying these numbers are correct, I'm just showing how it would make sense to me if someone could provide those details.
    I'm looking for measurements for gears 1-4 and Reverse.

    Thanks in advance for the assistance.

    A very Merry Christmas to everyone!
     
  2. RustyRatRod

    RustyRatRod Lemmie see your b00bs. FABO Gold Member

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    It depends on the shifter and shift linkage. In other words, it's not something that's standard across the board.
     
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      Exactly correct.

      OP, what shifter are you using?
       
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      Biff Cheep not easy

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      Did someone say can-0-worms ! Sorry no help here good luck though there are a bunch of smart people on here to help just not me:)
       
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      • Oldmanmopar

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        why do you need these measurements? Is it to install the hump or a console?
         
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        Call Dan at Brewers Transmissions (937) 947-4416.
        He can probably shed more light on the subject.
        Merry Christmas to you also.
        Joe
         
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        cudascott Now I have a Hemi

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        Out of the office till the new year
         
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        Too bad.
         
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        I have an A833 in my duster and could take some measurements for you, but not sure what shifter you are trying to measure. Depending on how long the shifter handle is and type of shifter you are using the measurements will be different. I have a hurst pistol grip shifter in my duster. Let me know what you are trying to accomplish and I can get you some measurements if they'll help.
         
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        • jonn6464

          jonn6464 1970 Duster FABO Gold Member

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          I'm using a push-in bayonet style shift mechanism modified to accept an e-body pistol grip shift handle.
          I will get the part number from the shifter as soon as my 3 year old runs out of energy and wants to stop playing. So, maybe next Monday.

          I am needing this info because I'm making a custom top plate for the console.

          Thanks again
           
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          • jonn6464

            jonn6464 1970 Duster FABO Gold Member

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            I'm really looking for the amount of travel at the base of the shift handle, where it clears the top plate. The amount of travel at the top (where you hold it) will be longer depending on length of handle.
             
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            There is only one way to do this, and that is to actually measure the shifter you are going to use with all pieces you are going to use.
             
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            • Oldmanmopar

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              I put a dummy block with the bell and trans while it was on the rottiserie. I mounted everything in place to install the hump and console in a Duster. Like stated above the only way to do it correctly is by making what you are using fit

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            • cudascott

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              I did the same except mine was upright
               
            • jonn6464

              jonn6464 1970 Duster FABO Gold Member

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              Yeah, I guess I'll just wait until I get a little farther along and take my measurements then. My job is in the slow season right now, so I was going to take advatage of the metal fabrication tools that are just sitting idly right now. Thanks for all the replies.
               
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              I'm trying to understand what you are doing. It sound like you are planning on using a E-body pistol grip shifter in you A-Body and will also be installing a console with a modified top?
               
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              ...............And keep in mind a certain amount of clearance allowing for motor mount movement. Unlike an auto console shifter, it's mounted to the gearbox.........and it MOVES, front, back, and torque rotation left/ right
               
            • jonn6464

              jonn6464 1970 Duster FABO Gold Member

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              Yep, that's exactly it. Attaching the E-body shifter and using the A-body console with a custom top plate.
               
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              694spd Well-Known Member

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              That's going to be quite the feat to pull off. You will want to share some pictures of results here if you can make it happen. Good Luck...
               
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              • jonn6464

                jonn6464 1970 Duster FABO Gold Member

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                Which part will be quite the feat? I'm not being a dick, that's an honest question.
                I've seen numerous pictures on other members post that are using a B-body or E-body shift handle. Sometimes with an A-body console, sometimes without.
                 
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                The E-body pistol grip shifter only had one style and that was a straight handle which was used on both console and non console cars. With that Chrysler designed for the E-body a console with a offset shifter opening.
                The 4 speed consoles used in the 69 and earlier A-bodies and the 70 and earlier B-bodies have the shifter openings located in the center of the console which required the console only shifter handle.
                Putting a E-body shifter in A-body and using a A-body console would require a lot of modification to the console's base and top.
                 
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                In other words it would be easier to modify the shifter to fit the console, not the console to fit the shifter.
                 
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                I would say, yes to that...
                 
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