540", QuickTime/4L80E by Hughes

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Hi, anyone running a similar trans combo ? Considering a US Shift/Quick 1 controller, and JM flexplate. I need feedback. Thanks, ateam.:coffee2:
 
Might want to lose the QT adapter.....my car is far from done but that is the same adapter I have....and another member here...and he had a crap load of leaks. Contact Chris at

http://ckperformance.com/index.html

and have him hook you up with the Reid Racing bell

http://www.reidracing.biz/

and the adapter ring/pump set up....From what I understand Chris builds some *** kicking transmissions....
If Chris is not to your liking give Jake at

http://jakesperformance.com/

a call, he does the same set up.....

Both build there own t-brakes as well...if you want/need one....

And if you ever get to AZ give my buddy Doug a call at

http://www.buytransmission.net/

he builds some great transmissions for all sorts of hot rods....
 
Might want to lose the QT adapter.....my car is far from done but that is the same adapter I have....and another member here...and he had a crap load of leaks. Contact Chris at

http://ckperformance.com/index.html

and have him hook you up with the Reid Racing bell

http://www.reidracing.biz/

and the adapter ring/pump set up....From what I understand Chris builds some *** kicking transmissions....
If Chris is not to your liking give Jake at

http://jakesperformance.com/

a call, he does the same set up.....

Both build there own t-brakes as well...if you want/need one....

And if you ever get to AZ give my buddy Doug a call at

http://www.buytransmission.net/

he builds some great transmissions for all sorts of hot rods....
>> I haven't received adapter BH yet. Will it requre an adapter ring ? Anyone running a 4L80E, built by Hughes ? Thanks, flyingwedge.
 
There is a member here that has used the QT adapter....and had nothing but troubles from it. The QT piece does not need an adapter. The one I mentioned does as it is an SFI 727 bellhousing....the adapter ring is necessary to go from the pump bolt pattern of a Mopar trans to the pump bolt pattern of the 4l80. Any particular reason you are hing up on a Hughes unit?
 
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showpost.php?p=1970382478&postcount=88

I'm the guy that had trouble with the Quick Time Bell. Chris at CK warned me about using it prior to my installing it, but I had already purchased it and I'm kinda thick headed!

I posted an attachment above with some pics of the new set-up with the Reid bell and adapter plate inkjunkie mentioned. The leaks from the shaft of the bolts are because the pump gasket on the transmission has little "cuts" or weep holes at each bolt where the pump bolts to the housing. They allow any fluid to escape the bolt holes as the pump is tightened down to prevent the hydraulic pressure from splitting the case if the fluid could not escape. Unfortunately, the Quick time piece not being perfectly flat and the fact that it bolts to a cast surface (the pump) which is not flat, allows the fluid to creep up the shaft of the bolt and leak out from around the bolt heads. It was a very slow, steady leak. The damn thing leaked for days just sitting on the lift without even running. Starting the car only made it worse! The factory pump does not leak because every bolt hole is spot faced to create a flat surface for the flanged bolts to contact allowing them to seal. When the adapter is used the bolt heads no longer contact the spot faced areas on the pump, they contact the adapter itself which then allows them to leak. If you have any other questions, shoot me a PM and I'd be glad to try and help!
 
Lol! the 4L80 is a heavy sombitch, that's for sure!
>. I have been informed by JM and trans builders, the 4L80E pump face must be machined flat/parallel, for effective mounting/sealing. I'm prepared to do this. For better up-shifts, I like the design that "releases" frictionals, rater than applying. Some say this is an advantage of the TH400 and 4L80E. Cheers, flyingwedge. :coffee2:
 
>. I have been informed by JM and trans builders, the 4L80E pump face must be machined flat/parallel, for effective mounting/sealing. I'm prepared to do this. For better up-shifts, I like the design that "releases" frictionals, rater than applying. Some say this is an advantage of the TH400 and 4L80E. Cheers, flyingwedge. :coffee2:

Just remember that once the pump face is machined (I don't know how much will have to come off to make it flat) the converter will be closer to the flex plate by the amount machined off as you've essentially pulled the bell housing back. this may cause problems with proper "pull-out" of the converter. It should NOT be bottomed out in the pump! I don't know what you plan on using for a converter, but mine is a billet, multi-clutch unit from Joe at Pro-Torque which has pretty thick mounting pads that could be milled to compensate, but I'm not sure how a stock type case converter would work out. Another issue that came up was that the crank pilot on a BB Mopar is significantly larger than that of the GM LS that the converter is designed for, which requires a bushing to be turned and fit to either the crank or the pilot on the converter. I used the latter of the two methods. If the pilot does not engage far enough into the crank and is not a reasonably tight fit, there will be no support on the transmission's input shaft and I don't have to tell you that's a bad thing! Fortunately for me, Chris at CK is a personal friend and Pro-Torque is 5 minutes from me, so working through Chris, I was able to take measurements and get them to Joe. He then gave me an empty case built to my measurements, so I could mock it up to check for proper fit. Once checked and double checked, I brought it back with any corrections that needed to be made and he finished up the unit. It certainly wasn't cheap, but I know it's right!
 
Why wouldn't you use the 48re if you had to go with a od trans, or the 545. ?

Are you using the modified 80e with 6 spds or just the 80e?
 
Why wouldn't you use the 48re if you had to go with a od trans, or the 545. ?

Are you using the modified 80e with 6 spds or just the 80e?
>> I wasn't able to find a 48RE core. Martin Saine wants $4,600+ my core. Yes, I'm shure it would be a quality build. Speaking only for me, too much $'s and too much tunnel work. I like the power flow of TH400/4L80E's. Unknowm-yet, as a 5-6 speed. Cheers, flyingwedge.
 
Why wouldn't you use the 48re if you had to go with a od trans, or the 545. ?

Are you using the modified 80e with 6 spds or just the 80e?

I believe the OP is going the six speed route, I'm sticking with four. I have a full manual, forward pattern valve body with a trans brake. I went with the 80 simply because I'm familiar with it!
 
Thats a lot of weight to want to be familiar with and drag around though for the 4 gears, the 727 with the gv is lighter and the option of using the gv between adding to performance.
 
Thats a lot of weight to want to be familiar with and drag around though for the 4 gears, the 727 with the gv is lighter and the option of using the gv between adding to performance.
>> How does a 727 and a GV, has less drag than a 4L80E ? Cost of a GV is ? I must consider bang for buck, which is why I chose the 4L80E. It is considerably lighter than the A518, and will fit easier. Cheers, flyingwedge.:coffee2:
 
I don't think the 80e is lighter than a 46rh/518, pretty positive the 80e has that covered comfortably, i know the 27 w/gv is lighter than the 80e, 160 to 178, without TC's.
 
Here's some pics of my install with the Ried case in case you're interested. I still have some cooler line routing and wiring to take care of, but this gives you some idea.
 

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I don't think the 80e is lighter than a 46rh/518, pretty positive the 80e has that covered comfortably, i know the 27 w/gv is lighter than the 80e, 160 to 178, without TC's.
>> According to the SMR,(convertors) webbsite, A518= 170 lbs dry/no convertor. $l80E = 187 lbs, dry/no convertor and 727 with GV. is 195.55 lbs. Fast 01, thanks for the pic's and info.:burnout: flyingwedge.
 
Sorry for the sideways pictures! My phone keeps uploading them that way.
Fast01 I am doing a 4l80E swap and having a hard time getting a converter to work, would you mind if I asked you a few ?'s, Maybe a e-mail? (E mail address removed by Moderator)
 
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