90 degree oil filter adapter filter

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  1. prorac1

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    we are having a hard time finding a part number for the smaller diameter oil filter that the adapter needs.

    What is everyone running?

    All I can find is the PH8A, which is the large diameter to fit directly to the block. The adapter looks as if it used a smaller filter.

    Thanks. Eric
     
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    I run a HP1 Fram
     
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    Wix 51515 or napa gold equivalent. IMO fram = junk. Pretty sure the adapter uses same filter as with no adapter.
     
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      Fram PH8A is correct, WIX 51515 also! I just changed my oil Saturday and either of these are correct! 65'
       
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        oil filter.jpg
        i use this one
         
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        Wix 51085 or PH16 is a shorter filter. Stock on the 92 up dakotas, I use it on mine for clearance with the header.
         
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          im not sure this statement makes sense
          isnt the whole point of the adapter that you can run headers without having to use a smaller filter?
           
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          • d1970

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            Napa 1085 short oil filter (3.836 inch)
            Napa Gold 1215 (3.404 inch)
             
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            Diameter and threads are the same. Length is what differs.
            When not using the 90 degree adapter, there is a steel plate that goes onto the block.
             
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            • 66durgederp

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              NAPA 1215 is the same micron rating as a comparable 1515, 1068, or 1085. Biggest difference is the filter material. those numbers are longest to shortest. 21 micron on all 3, and a kickass beta ratio of 2/20 = 6/20. To break it down heres how it works. According to the beta ratio chart, the first rating, 2/20, means that the media rating of 2 is 50% efficient at catching particulates down to 6 microns in size. The second rating, 6/20 means that the rating of 6 is 95% efficient at catching particles 20 microns and larger. most industrial filters are a higher micron rating and wix doesnt supply beta ratios for them.
               
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              PH43 is the shorter filter(Fram)
               
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                Just a fyi. If you need an even smaller diameter filter for any clearance issues. The filter for the 85-91 2.2 and 2.5 dodge turbo engines will spin right on. It has the same size gasket and thread.
                 
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                It's not a length issue. It's the gasket surface diameter of the adapter. It appears to take a smaller filter.

                I will have to check it again. But it appeared to be a smaller diameter.

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                With the adapter?
                 
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                all the filters for SB have the same gasket size, it is just the length of the filter that is different
                 
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                  I have the adapter with the 51515 wix filter on it
                   
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                  Yup. It's not the size of the can that matters, but the size of the gasket
                   
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                    21085/1085 from napa is what I use.
                     
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                      It doesn't. It takes the same filter that screws directly to the side of the block with no adapter.
                       
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                        Take that stupid adapter off. Just another spot to get a leak. 090 Mopar filter at Walmart. (It's the black one with the big blue M) $6.29
                         
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                          Before you say it... It doesn't hit my cheap Summit headers.
                           
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                            Thank you very much everyone. That's exactly what I was looking for. I greatly appreciate the help. Thanks again. Eric
                             
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                              Women who say that size doesn't matter are shallow.... :D
                               
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                                Wix 51085. Guaranteed no clearance issues no matter what exhaust you are running.
                                 
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                                  If you look at this picture you can see the filter is larger than the adapter.
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                                  Alan