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71_dart_swinger

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I have a torquer intake on top. Engine is 440 .30 over. 516 heads rebuilt . About 10:1. Slightly larger ferrea valves. Hd roller .565 on both. .295 .305 duration. Harland sharp roller 1.5 rocker. Holley 750 street HP. 150 jets in nx plate mainline kit. Stall is about 3700. 4:30 gear.
Intake is cracked at the carb stud like all. Wondering if I should upgrade as I a getting a good deal on the 440 m1 intake. Come tax season. If able. I'll be getting heads. Just mainly curious if the m1 is to much for my set up.
 
Put an Eddy RPM performer dual plane on it. I have one on my big block, i am making 525 hp and 552 tq. I shift at 6300 go through the top end at around 5300 rpm. 275/60/15 drag radial with a 3.73 gear.
 
Fisher said:
Put an Eddy RPM performer dual plane on it. I have one on my big block, i am making 525 hp and 552 tq. I shift at 6300 go through the top end at around 5300 rpm. 275/60/15 drag radial with a 3.73 gear.
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Mine was 445 at the wheels. 28x11.50x15 so it's probably around 525ish. It made power up to 5800.
 
71_dart_swinger said:
So.
I have a torquer intake on top. Engine is 440 .30 over. 516 heads rebuilt . About 10:1. Slightly larger ferrea valves. Hd roller .565 on both. .295 .305 duration. Harland sharp roller 1.5 rocker. Holley 750 street HP. 150 jets in nx plate mainline kit. Stall is about 3700. 4:30 gear.
Intake is cracked at the carb stud like all. Wondering if I should upgrade as I a getting a good deal on the 440 m1 intake. Come tax season. If able. I'll be getting heads. Just mainly curious if the m1 is to much for my set up.
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I`d find out what ur heads flow and go from there, "if it were me. "
 
71_dart_swinger said:
So.
I have a torquer intake on top. Engine is 440 .30 over. 516 heads rebuilt . About 10:1. Slightly larger ferrea valves. Hd roller .565 on both. .295 .305 duration. Harland sharp roller 1.5 rocker. Holley 750 street HP. 150 jets in nx plate mainline kit. Stall is about 3700. 4:30 gear.
Intake is cracked at the carb stud like all. Wondering if I should upgrade as I a getting a good deal on the 440 m1 intake. Come tax season. If able. I'll be getting heads. Just mainly curious if the m1 is to much for my set up.
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IMO you don't have enough head or compression for a single plane manifold, your engine would perform better with a dual plane intake like Fisher mentioned, add a carb spacer and your nitrous plate (IMO 200 shot) you'll be hauling ***.
 
Fisher said:
Put an Eddy RPM performer dual plane on it. I have one on my big block, i am making 525 hp and 552 tq. I shift at 6300 go through the top end at around 5300 rpm. 275/60/15 drag radial with a 3.73 gear.
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curious what your combo is?
 
dukeboy_318 said:
curious what your combo is?
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383 block 440 steel crank= 426 low deck. 9.98-1 compression with EDDY rpm performer heads out of the box. RPM Performer intake. TTI 1-3/4 headers. Lunati solid lifter cam .544/.566 with .243/.251@.050 AED 750 HOM carb. 32 total timing in by 3000 rpm. TCI 3500 stall flashes to 4000 with all the torque. 3.73 gears and a 275/60/15 drag radial. motor falls off at 6000 rpm so i shift at 300 over peak 6300.
 
Fisher said:
383 block 440 steel crank= 426 low deck. 9.98-1 compression with EDDY rpm performer heads out of the box. RPM Performer intake. TTI 1-3/4 headers. Lunati solid lifter cam .544/.566 with .243/.251@.050 AED 750 HOM carb. 32 total timing in by 3000 rpm. TCI 3500 stall flashes to 4000 with all the torque. 3.73 gears and a 275/60/15 drag radial. motor falls off at 6000 rpm so i shift at 300 over peak 6300.
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Have you ever ran 1/4?
 
I am guessing with the 4.30's and a 28" tire your combo will be fine with the M1. Are you hitting the NOS off the line or later in the run? The NOS can make up for the low end loss till your up on the RRR's to run the M1.

Guessing your heads are ported because much more then a 500 lift the stock head run all the same.

Cheers Don.
 
71_dart_swinger said:
So.
I have a torquer intake on top. Engine is 440 .30 over. 516 heads rebuilt . About 10:1. Slightly larger ferrea valves. Hd roller .565 on both. .295 .305 duration. Harland sharp roller 1.5 rocker. Holley 750 street HP. 150 jets in nx plate mainline kit. Stall is about 3700. 4:30 gear.
Intake is cracked at the carb stud like all. Wondering if I should upgrade as I a getting a good deal on the 440 m1 intake. Come tax season. If able. I'll be getting heads. Just mainly curious if the m1 is to much for my set up.
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I ran a 71 charger gutted.. 30 over 440 8.5 comp hard lifter mopar perf cam. The small one. I don't remember the specs. 452 heads pocket ported. 5500 jw conv. 456 gear 29.5 10.5 slick. 1.6 rockers. Eddy torker 2 intake single plain. Cheap 1 5/8 headers with 2 1/2 ft extension. No frame connectors. 7.40s 1/8 mile with 1.50 60ft. 11.60 1/4. Won a ton of money bracket racing that car. Later on went to 11.5 comp with same heads. Big mopar perf hard lifter cam . And a mopar perf tunnel ram. Two 750 vac sec carbs with a screw in the secondary linkage to force the secondary open. 6.90 1/8 mile 10.90s 1/4. Same tire and conv. And gears / tires.
 
The original Torker 440 is a surpringly good low/mid-range power builder, but the runners just don’t have enough cross section to support upper rpm power.

The M1 single plane should easily be worth 10-15hp on that combo.
You might notice a slight loss of low end snap vs the Torker, depending on how your converter behaves.
 
You should not see the Max HP RMP change between the two intakes. The MAX torque RMP will be about 800-900 RPM's higher with the M1. Now because of this mathematically the torque with be the same just higher in RPM the end result is more HP at the same MAX RPM with the M1.

A 900 RPM change in converter will get you rolling to where your combo runs now.
 
Substituting the old Torker for the Torker 2. 4:30 gears. Converter . Get it out of the whole pretty good. I'm not to worried about the little loss in torque. Couldn't find an M1 that I could afford. Lol. Should be here in a day or so . I do drive it to work periodically which is about 20 miles one way.
 
71_dart_swinger said:
Substituting the old Torker for the Torker 2. 4:30 gears. Converter . Get it out of the whole pretty good. I'm not to worried about the little loss in torque. Couldn't find an M1 that I could afford. Lol. Should be here in a day or so . I do drive it to work periodically which is about 20 miles one way.
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I'm thinking it will run really good. You play with the cam timing also. I have had good results playing with my cam timing thru out the years... I have always degreed in my cams. Then I played with them. You never know until you try.
 
I really like the TM7 for ur combo. My old duster was built to run 11.000. Ran that with the TM7. Tried a Torker 440 intake and the car lost over a tenth. The 60 ft wasn’t much different. Kim
 
oldkimmer said:
I really like the TM7 for ur combo. My old duster was built to run 11.000. Ran that with the TM7. Tried a Torker 440 intake and the car lost over a tenth. The 60 ft wasn’t much different. Kim
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I think that proves the orig. torquer had too small of runners-----------
 
AndyF did a intake test on his 470 cid and trick flow was the best intake out of the box for a single plane over a victor and a m1
 
I dyno tested the original Torker vs the Torker II in 1990.
9.7cr, 850DP, 2” headers, bowl ported big valve 906’s, Racer Brown SSH-44 cam.
Torker 550tq/519hp, peak hp @5750
Torker II 536tq/536hp, peak hp @6250

That 536/536 combo went low 11’s.
Same motor with more porting and a roller cam went 10.70’s @3670 with the ootb Torker II........ back in 1995...... when 10.70’s out of a combo like that was pretty fast.
 
71_dart_swinger said:
Substituting the old Torker for the Torker 2. 4:30 gears. Converter . Get it out of the whole pretty good. I'm not to worried about the little loss in torque. Couldn't find an M1 that I could afford. Lol. Should be here in a day or so . I do drive it to work periodically which is about 20 miles one way.
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Just reread this post :
I reworked a torquer 2 , and have it on my car. It flows better than a stock 440 victor, with only 24cfm of scatter between the runners.
Still not enough for my heads---------should be good enough for all reworked stock heads.
 
Torker 2 was just dropped off by ups a few minutes ago. Hopefully it's on before end of day.
New question for you guys though. Nitrous plate under 1" riser or on top of it. I have read both ways. I'll probably leave it under the spacer Just curious what you guys have experienced?
 
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