Anyone use Vintage Air

Heating / Cooling / AC

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    If so what system did you get. Will the largest unit fit under the dash. 67 Barracuda not early A. Second generation
     
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    Classic auto air has a heater/AC unit that replaces the heater in '67-up A-bodies. That's what I am planning on for my '67 convertible.
     
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    i'm in the middle of doing a Gen IV system in my 68' valiant. got the mounting figured out. looks like it hangs pretty low but mocked up with the seat it's fine. actually lines up pretty close to the stock box
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    i decided to use the stock blower motor holes to mount it so i made an adapter plate
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    also don't care for the way the front of the unit is supported. just supposed to use a couple of self tappers and run them into the cowl area. i made a little bracket and welded it to the underside of the cowl. biggest thing left is decide how i want to run the lines to the compressor
     
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      I've installed a few systems in non Mopars. So far, I have yet to be impressed with them. They take up WAY more room under the dash than the factory components and the controls are chinsey, like they can just break anytime. In the 72 Chevy C/10 I did, you lose over 3/4 of the glove box room. That's just unacceptable, especially when Chevy really had it right to begin with.
       
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        Even though Vintage air is less than 10 minutes from my house I think I’m going with classic auto air. Their system is a direct fit for the A body (so they say). I don’t feel like mocking anything else up anymore. Especially in a small space. I’m still on the fence though. Thanks for the replies hopefully more will come in.
         
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          I'm leaning toward Classic too for my current project
           
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          I noticed on eBay the "coldmaster inc.".
          I've been meaning to call them and see how quickly their customer service and customer support answers the phone...
           
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          One thing about the Classic system and probably all the others that are heat/AC combined is that you will lose the fresh air vent on the passenger side. When I get to that point I will see if I can cut the fresh air vent part off a heater box and build a wall on the open side to keep the vent. We'll see if that can be done.
           
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            Correct, you loose the passenger side fresh air vent, but you gain the ducted and powered bi level vents. My plan is to add a switch to the compressor power line so I can have the bi level vents selected and blowing outside air in with the blower, but not have the ac compressor engaged. That will more than make up for the loss of the passenger side fresh air vent that only brings air in when the car is moving.
             
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              Well I finally called Coldmaster inc. this morning... They answered right away and we're very informational... For the $500 range for a complete setup... It's definitely sparked my interest...
               
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              $500 something dont seem right.
              Be very couscous that sounds like to good of deal for a complete system.
              Let us know when you get yours
               
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                I used the Vintage Air Gen IV evaporator with their 3 slide control inside my '68 Barracuda convertible. The servo controls work great, and there are no troublesome manual cables to adapt. It fits in there very nicely and performs well. Yes, it does require blocking off the passenger side cowl air vent, but I don't miss it. They don't make a direct fit kit for my car yet, but the Vintage Air Gen IV is a very high quality unit that moves a lot of air and allows for A/C assisted windshield defrost.

                I sourced a larger R134 compatible condenser, receiver drier, Sanden compressor. lines & fittings from Nostalgic Air. I have a 5.9 Magnum based 408 in the car with the Mopar serpentine belt set-up, so the brackets were on the motor. For the upper mount on the evaporator, I used 2 nut-certs in the cowl.

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                  I agree. That was the reason that I gave him a call this morning to see if they answer the phone and they're not you know flaky... he said the reason that they're not as expensive as vintage air and places like that is because their units are generic and not car specific. You will need to make your own brackets for the ductwork under the dash and of course for the compressor. They're not just bolt in kits.. That doesn't scare me as that's the kind of stuff I like to do on my car as my car is my hobby.... I wouldn't want to spend the extra $1,500 for someone to take the fun part out of it...:D...
                  Again agreed skeptical at the very least...
                  not ready to pull the trigger until I know the modifications that I'm already doing or going to work out...
                   
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                    I called and talked to them a few months ago. I plan on using them.
                    This is for my '70 Challenger. My last one I used Classic Auto Air. I don't want to use them again.
                     
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                    Interested to know why???
                     
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                    It ain't just you RRR. I have done 2 systems and both lacked on the control end. Maybe the Mopar stuff is better. I dunno. One thing I do know is you can hang Meat in the car if the system is installed properly..... They are some cooling systems.....

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                    To know why I wouldn't use Classic Auto Air, again. sure. I think there customer service and Tech service sucks.
                    They don't even answer there phone for Tech Leave a message and we never call you back.
                     
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                      How much work was involved in the install of the evaporator unit under the dash. Like I said before Vintage air is just down the road from me and the few times I’ve gone there they have not been helpful at all. I asked them about my compressor if it would work and the guy told me I would have to find out from someone. I told him that’s why I am here you guys are supposed to be the experts. He handed me a catalogue and said let’s us know what you need. I told him again that’s why I was there I did not know what I needed. So I am still on the fence. Your setup is nice. Did you fab the under dash vents and can you post a full pic of your center console. That looks really good.
                       
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                        Add to this they will tell you anything to sell their unit including it will bolt into the factory holes and locations. When it doesn’t fit correctly call and they’ll swear they never to you it would fit without some modifications and want to charge a 20% restocking fee. No thanks!!
                        Live and learn which companies to avoid.
                         
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                          Thank you for that. That convinces me to never use them. If they're like that to your face they are even going to be worse on the phone...
                           
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                            It was relatively easy to install the evaporator. I did have to drill a couple holes in the firewall for both mounting bolts and the A/C lines and put 2 nut-certs in the cowl.

                            I used a piece of plastic to with a bit of texture on it to adapt their control panel to my dash hole to replace the factory heater control panel. I got that from Tap Plastics.

                            One of the biggest enhancements you can make on your car to improve the effect of the A/C system is to fully insulate the passenger compartment with a self-adhesive Dynamat Extreme type sound deadener AND a foil covered insulated mat with all the seams taped up to keep out heat, noise and fumes. My insulation goes from under the front windshield to the rear windshield and door sill to door sill plus both doors and under the headliner in my hard top E-Body.

                            I've written on that installation technique, which I learned from an airplane interior insulating web page. The butyl self-sticking mats are not enough by themselves. The addition of the blanket type foil pad really makes a big difference. I've done it in both my Mopars.

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                              I used your insulation technique already I read the post on it awhile back but could not find it again when I was getting ready to do the AC. I used FAT MAT and the thermal padding.
                               
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                                When I called coldmaster that was one of his questions how much heat protection I had at the firewall. I said none LOL that's why he recommended the 22000 btu..
                                 
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