Went to a local steel supplier this morn, "on the" backhoe subframe project. I'm not done digging in my poorly "organized" stash, so I wasn't lookin to buy new, but I wanted to examine their "remnant" pile, and to my surprise, there wasn't a pile at all, only maybe a grand total of 6 or 8 chunks in their, none of them close to what I want. MAN!! Usually there's 200-400 libs of remnants you have to dig and be careful not to mash a finger!!