Ceiling White Paint REALLY Works!

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I remember seeing in another thread @slantsixdan talkin about painting the inside of light fixtures like tail lights and turn signal housings with ceiling white paint. I just happen to have a quart of ceiling white paint, because I'm working on the house. I've been doing some work on one of my lawn mowers and decided to try it. Now keep in mind, these are "only" standard el cheapo 1156 bulbs. I am absolutely floored. I'll probably never mow in the dark, but I sure could now. I just like everything to work as good as it can. Check it out. Vixen and Gladys are next. Thanks, Dan!
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Yupper. Not for optical-type lamps where you need a specular/mirrorlike reflector to form the beam, but the 'headlamps' on a mower are really more like back-up lights on a car. The dude in this movie takes awhile to get to the point, but he eventually (3:24) he starts to get around to it, and the difference is pretty obvious even with a low-quality camera. And he just used regular white, not ceiling white; regular white looks dishwater-grey next to ceiling white.

Who're Vixen and Gladys?

 
I finally got some get-to-the-point pics with a new utility truck taillight assembly. Takes an 1157 in the brake/tail light, and 1156 in the turn signal. The reflector bowls were factory-painted matte chrome silver, very similar to the reflector material in our cars.

Here's the taillight assembly as made, with the silvery reflectors:

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And after I painted the reflectors white:

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Here are the reflectors after I applied Behr Ultra Pure White, which has a reflectivity value of 94, even higher than the Sherwin-Williams stuff. I used a foam brush to apply it. It goes on thick, and took 2 coats for full visual coverage:

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I used a luxmeter app on my phone to record the tail, brake, and turn signal output with the stock reflectors, then with the white reflectors. Same bulbs on the same power supply at the same distance.

Tail, stock reflector and then white reflector:

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Brake, stock reflector and then white reflector:

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Turn signal, stock reflector and then white reflector:

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This isn't a calibrated luxmeter setup, so while the readings are valid (~ish) for more/less comparison, they aren't valid on their own to determine exactly how much light the lamps were putting out.

For fun, I put the best-so-far of the "LED bulbs" suitable for this kind of lamp, in the turn signal with the white reflector:

Yeah, lookit that: less light than the stock bulb in the stock reflector. Pffft.

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I remember seeing in another thread @slantsixdan talkin about painting the inside of light fixtures like tail lights and turn signal housings with ceiling white paint. I just happen to have a quart of ceiling white paint, because I'm working on the house. I've been doing some work on one of my lawn mowers and decided to try it. Now keep in mind, these are "only" standard el cheapo 1156 bulbs. I am absolutely floored. I'll probably never mow in the dark, but I sure could now. I just like everything to work as good as it can. Check it out. Vixen and Gladys are next. Thanks, Dan!View attachment 1716265795View attachment 1716265796
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Thank you, Dan. This is excellent.
I have a couple of cars that have 100% stock housings and standard bulbs. I like the light pattern that my cars have and not as enamored with the LED replacement taillights.
The red car clearly has brighter output than the other one...

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Painting the insides of the housings with white paint as opposed to silver.....I would have never thought of that. I'd expect the silver to reflect more light but I'm not as versed in this stuff as others are.
 
Where does one find flat ceiling white paint? I go searching for it and all I get back is a zillion kinds of ceiling paint in shades of white like pink-white and eggshell white.
 
Where does one find flat ceiling white paint? I go searching for it and all I get back is a zillion kinds of ceiling paint in shades of white like pink-white and eggshell white.
Any big box store should have ceiling white. I wonder how base white for car paint would work. A friend painted the top on his 55 Chevy with that paint. It is the white base they use to mix with colors.
 
Where does one find flat ceiling white paint? I go searching for it and all I get back is a zillion kinds of ceiling paint in shades of white like pink-white and eggshell white.
Killz primer is flat and pretty white. Might get the job done.
 
Not close to white enough, no. Regular whites like this look grey next to high-reflectivity white.
I have a number of headlight mounting buckets that I'm about to de-rust & re-finish. I noticed a long time ago that some sealed beam lamps had the silvering selectively missing, ........the '92 Chebby G10/Sportvan I just picked up has them painted black, some are galvavized, some appear to be painted gray/body color overspray. Is the desired bucket finish affected by the type of sealed beam, i.e. low/high-low/high, or does it not matter?
I know I cleaned up some buckets on a rectangular 4-lamp system, & the bottom of the one pair only had a strip of silvering up the middle, the lamps were brighter new of course.......but seemed better than before w/new lamps. Is the missing silvering intentional to reduce up-scatter light, or just cheapin' out, (I believe they were Wagner Halogens~'90)?
 
Flat white spray-paint shouldn't be that difficult. Lowes, ACE, HD, etc.....
 
I did the left side of my Jigsaw Charger. Top photo is before, bottom is after.

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It will show up better when it is dark. I’ll try again later.
I used some spray paint just to test the theory.

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