Edelbrock’s New Carb Is The Most High-Tech

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  1. Cope

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    Looks nice bud.

    And thats exactly what I thought you would say.

    Why? You got your holley guys and you got your eddy/thermo guys.

    Its an interesting cross over thats for sure.

    My bet is it has to do with expiring patents or some such bs.
     
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    I understand EFI. I trust it too. Your blanket statement is silly. I don’t use it because in most N/A applications a carb will out horsepower EFI. And a carb can and will idle like EFI. An, if the carb is tuned even close it will self adjust for most weather. Warren Johnson, who can tune a carb said he didn’t change a jet going from Denver to Sonoma. I couldn’t care less about blowers and hair dryers. If I was doing that, and the power was going to be above say, 800 hp I would use EFI. But I’m bored by power adders. So it’s not what you think at all.
     
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    • Cope

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      @j par

      And my god man. If your car came in to check air pressure in the right rear id replace that hard line out of the master....

      Insert piccard face palm pic here.


      :)

      Ha!

      I do love your car.
       
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      • MOPARMAGA

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        If you ask me it's a great design, it's basically a hybrid with 4500 height & 4150 versatility.
        This carb is as tunable as a carb can get.
        Plus they did something I thought is a good idea by peening the surface so the air is constantly sheared off of the surface. With the longer venturies it's a guaranteed gain in torque. Downleg annular boosters, if it's affordable to me I'll try a 950 cfm
         
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        • j par

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          Actually that's an old picture I don't have those valve covers or air cleaners on there anymore. I actually took that hard line off that goes down to the line lock which I took off...
           
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          I still like it but hell, what do I know? Im driving around in a 1963 Nova. Just kidding....




          Its broken down.

          Shit.
          :D
           
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            The intermediate bleeds are split If I remember correctly
             
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            I'm in the market for a mechanical secondary to try on Vixen. I have one, but the 650 version of this looks good.....but the price point is gonna be the hangup. This AIN'T gonna be a 400 dollar carburetor.
             
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            • sr71mopar

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              Almost as cool as an Autolite 4100.
               
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              Yeah I bet not $400, I have a couple carbs to build first both will get me to my goal
               
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              They are, but I question the 3rd circuit. There is no reason for it.
               
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              Yeah, I do agree, really no reason for it.
               
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              I suppose if the 3rd circuit is blocked off out of the box it’s not a bad deal. But everything I’ve seen shows a functioning 3rd circuit. It will be so rich it will never clean up in the middle.
               
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                Unless they figured something out by splitting the intermediate bleeds, I just can't put it together in my head how, except there's more air to immulsify the fuel which may make that circuit easier to atomize . I'm probably thinking about it wrong though & please correct me if I'm wrong
                 
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                I believe the test engine is a 555 musi so maybe the 3rd circuit wasn't loading it up
                 
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                Well that’s exactly it. The more you add emulsion the richer it gets and the sooner it gets richer. There are times when I run one emulsion hole. And that’s it. And many times I use one .028 hole at the top and a .022 hole near the bottom to get the upper rpm part of the fuel curve right.
                 
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                  Is there a video or article on this?
                   
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                  Yeah unfortunately I can't post on my phone but I think it's one of 3 videos on YouTube featuring this Edelbrock
                   
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                  I believe this is the video.
                   
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                    That's one, the other was just a guy at sema.
                    I don't think much info was in the other vid. Thanks for posting this.
                     
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                      Plus, and I am ready for the FI lovers to pile on, I have heard WAY too many stories of problems with all of the EFI units. Granted that a lot of people have had great luck with them, and swear by them, I have just seen too many complaints. Although a smooth running EFI setup on my car would be nice, to do it right costs $1800-$2000 or more, and my car runs great with a $450 Eddy carb. I am not "scared to death" of EFI, I just don't like all the bad press I have read.
                       
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                      • RustyRatRod

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                        It's too many stories for just us "oldheads" and operator error. There has to be some truth to some of the issues being the fault of some of the systems. There are defective products in every walk of life.

                        My opinion is, that's a hell of a lot of money (for me anyway) to lay out for something that may or may not work out. Although carburetors have gone up in price, they're still not as expensive as EFI, especially considering you need an entirely different type of fuel system which adds even more cost.
                         
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                        • Ottmundr

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                          The term is "greybeards" sheesh!
                           
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                            End of the track at the shutdown. We only found the hung float. The fire was probably somewhat manageable however it's a track that was never know for above safety implementation in place. When the hood got pulled off it was game on then.

                            My point is either system can give you this result. If hardcore guys snarl at the sight of a Laptop sitting in a passenger Seat wait until the EV start showing up and it's right around the corner lol......



                            JW
                             
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                              My old and trusty Carter 9636 gets me by. Good reliable carbs.
                               
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