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Mopar Performance Issues

  1. hamesdart

    hamesdart Well-Known Member

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    so this weekend i finally raced my 69 440 dart.
    I was the lone dart at the track at over 100 degrees so i was dying.

    first time ever drag racing

    this is the build
    1969 dodge dart
    -ENGINE
    1968 440 hp
    10-1 comp
    stock 906 heads w/mopar performance springs
    509 lift cam
    holley 750
    holley elect fuel pump
    holley street dominator intake
    msd 6a ignition
    msd billit distributer
    ss blaster coil
    high volume oil pan/pump
    -TRANS
    727
    reverse manuel valve body
    3000 stall
    -REAREND
    8-3/4
    3.91 w/suregrip

    -BODY
    Shaved fenderwells
    hemi hood scoop
    centerline rims/mickey thomsons

    -SUSPENSION
    super stock springs
    koni adjustable shocks in rear
    comp 90-10 adjustables up front


    my first race was 13.50
    then it ran 12.82
    then 12.80

    Not bad for a first time.
    Im thinking of dropping some weight here and there and then dialing it in a little and putting my subframe connectors in and stuff.

    Hope it can get down to low 12's or better soon.
    any suggestions?!!?!?

    thanks
     
  2. memike

    memike Super Moderator Staff Member FABO Gold Member

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    Quote putting my subframe connectors in.

    I would be careful and get them in before you twist that 69 Dart.

    I have seen them come back on three wheels before on the return lane.
    Congat's on your first time out. That had to be a blast:cheers:
     
  3. pettybludart

    pettybludart Well-Known Member

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    Good runs.Now just open your wallet,cause it,s an addiction.But an exciting one.Have fun!! Adjustable pinion snubber???
     
  4. daredevil

    daredevil Well-Known Member

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    i bet that cam would like a nice m1 intake
     
  5. hamesdart

    hamesdart Well-Known Member

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    no no pinion snubber yet but its commin.
    The m1 mite work well but im more into nostalgia as much as i can be,
    Everything on the car is more or less old as far as speed equiptment goes.
    I would actualy rather loose a little e.t. time then put all brand new parts on it. even though most people dissagree
     
  6. hamesdart

    hamesdart Well-Known Member

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    any other tips on dropping e.t?
    I have seen people with less work hit 11's so i think i mite just need to dial it in a little more and shift better. but anyone got anything else?

    thanks
     
  7. pettybludart

    pettybludart Well-Known Member

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    What jets?are you running with air filter(breather)?open headders.Some of this might start dropping 10ths.Good luck!
     
  8. 73dart360

    73dart360 Well-Known Member

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    put Caltracs and the mono leaf spring wih their adjustable shocks you will lose weight and plant the tires better than ever. and drop ET
     
  9. mguner

    mguner How many is too many?

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    What's the advance curve set up like on the dist? Lots of ET and 60ft time in the distributor..... More carb like an 850.... header tube size and collector length? Had a similar build in a Cuda with 4.11 gears and a six pack with huge carbs running 12.49 @ 112 and I'm at almost 4000 FT elevation so mid 11s is realistic in CA.
     
  10. Kevin D.

    Kevin D. Well-Known Member

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    Hamesdart where did you run that at I thought the only 1/4 mile left in Socal was Pomona.Kevin
     
  11. 68valiant400

    68valiant400 Senior Member

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    not sure if someone said this already but the rule of thumb is for every 100 pounds you lose you pick up a 10th off your time
     
  12. 71produster

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    Try a 2" crab spacer if you have room.
     
  13. mguner

    mguner How many is too many?

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    And if that doesn't work try the scallops and shrimp scampi spacers!! :snakeman:

    A 4 hole spacer will help your low end a little more FYI.....
     
  14. hamesdart

    hamesdart Well-Known Member

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    i raced at famosa speedway bakersfield california
    i ran open headers and should probly try re-jetting for that.
    elevation change wasnt that much.
    im running open headers.
    I am going to shave some weight....back seat and all the little stuff at least.
    It does have a spacer.

    I think im going to try some new stuff next time,
    next race is october and then the league doesnt have a race until april which will give me some more time to work on the car.

    Im going to try the following
    -remove back seat
    -play w/ timing and jetting
    -weight saving...back seat and so on
    -change intakes
    -install subframe connectors

    -eat up all the chevys!
     
  15. Baxter61

    Baxter61 Well-Known Member

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    What size/brand tires you got on that thing? Also, more converter will help it but not required.
     
  16. mguner

    mguner How many is too many?

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    Any collectors on the headers? 14" to 18" extenders will also help alot on the launch.
     
  17. hamesdart

    hamesdart Well-Known Member

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    tire size mt street radial
    275 60 15
    headers are hooker fenderwalls
    collectors are like 8" or so but im not sure
     
  18. pettybludart

    pettybludart Well-Known Member

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    Keep tryin, you,ll get the feel of it and it should turn out the best for ya!check out my vid. fromyesterday.
     
  19. gearjammer340

    gearjammer340 Well-Known Member

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    Im with Mguner, that combo will run harder once you get it all sorted out. Had a combo almost identical to that in our 67 charger w/4.30s went 12.50s(too much gear) w/26 in tires @ 3800lbs. Easiest of all our rigs to drive just point and shoot. We have a 74 duster with a nothing 440 shortblock with some 2.14 1.88 valved 906s(only mod to the heads) 528 mp solid cam performer rpm intake 850 holley w/schumaker tri/Ys lol 727 w/rev man vb.3000 stall in it w/8.25 w. 3.91s(that rear has been suprisingly strong, has an auburn in it and has been 130mph on the sauce a bunch of times in another one of our rigs) but that duster runs high 12 teens. Just today put subframe connectors on it. still running stock /6 rear springs 26x11 hoosiers(I like those tires quick time dot) the car just works we get lucky sometimes we built that one out of spare parts. Good luck with your A-body.
    our junk-------> www.freewebs.com/womanatorracing
     
  20. A360

    A360 Benton

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    Yep here is a couple of photos of mine before connectors

    Benton

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    mean318 Well-Known Member

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    Good Job for the first time out! I wish I could get into those times!
     
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    Like you said before. First time ever drag racing.

    Get the frame connector in and get so more practice in. You will do just fine.

    You don't mention you 60' times. Their should still be alot in that car.

    You say 3000 stall on the converter but dont say what brand. I think you could use a little higher stall. Call frank or Shawn at Dynamic converters. they do wonderful work.

    I have a 71 dart with only a 340, This weekend I went a 12.6et with a 1.81 60'

    Sub frames are my next project.
     
  23. Longgone

    Longgone John/68 Barracuda & Dart

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    How about a pair of slicks on light wheels? Line lock? Pinion snubber as someone mentioned early on?
     
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