Hardtop vs Coupe vs Sedan

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  1. jcmeyer5

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    I hope I didnt f this up...

    Ordered a headliner for our 69 Dart 340 Swinger. Took 4 weeks to get it. The website said it was for a 67-72 Dart COUPE. It was the only option available. It didnt say SEDAN, so my logic said it was correct. It is a PUI Interiors part number AH750100. I checked their website, and they dont say hardtop vs sedan vs coupe.

    So the real question is... what the heck is a coupe?
     
  2. Professor Fate

    Professor Fate Push the button, Max...

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    Coupe/hardtop should be the same (no B pillar). Sedan is 4 door or 2 door post.
     
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    • gdrill

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      Hardtop needs no explanation. Sedan is without a doubt a four door. Coupe could very well be a two door post.
       
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      • jcmeyer5

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        ARG!! Conflicting information.

        The headliner I got have separate sail panels. I thought the headliner would install over the sail panel boards. Instead, what I received with the headliner is boards with material glued to them. I had purchased a set of boards from DMT and they are identical to the ones that have the material on them.

        Which is a lot to say... I still dont know if I got what I needed.
         
      • gdrill

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      • dadsbee

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        A Coupe is a post car... also known as a Sedan but that generally refers to a 4 door. Hardtop has no B pillar..
         
      • Dana67Dart

        Dana67Dart The parts you don't add don't cause you no trouble FABO Gold Member

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        Convertibles don't have a B puller either so does that make them a hard top. :rolleyes:

        :rofl:
         
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        • jcmeyer5

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          Another data point... Summit Racing says it applies to a 1969 Dart Swinger, GT, and GTS.
           
        • HemiSSDart

          HemiSSDart Dartus Interuptus

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          Chrysler only had hardtops, sedans, and convertibles, there was NEVER a "coupe" in the muscle car era...
           
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          That's funny Hemiss, I guess my car ownership is wrong. COUPE..
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          • Bodyperson

            Bodyperson Pedal to the metal

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            Dont forget fastback. Notch back might be a coupe. I don't think a coupe can have a post.
             
          • jcmeyer5

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            Not trying to start a holy war here guys :)

            This headliner I received is HUGE. Probably twice as long as it needs to be. The sail panels that came with it are covered. All the pictures I have seen of hardtop headliners show the headliner going over the sail panel, not the sail panel having separate material.

            I am really hoping coupe = hardtop. I sent an email the PUI looking for guidance.
             
          • Bodyperson

            Bodyperson Pedal to the metal

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            You stay out of this.:poke: :lol:
             
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            • HemiSSDart

              HemiSSDart Dartus Interuptus

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              Notchback is what we call it, it is still a hardtop...
               
            • gdrill

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              Now that's funny!
               
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              • Cuda Al

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                Coupes do not have roll down rear windows, pop-out maybe.


                Alan
                 
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                • missing linc

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                  Yes, like Dusters and Dart Sports, IMHO. A Swinger would be considered a hardtop.
                   
                • moparmarks

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                  Coupes are like hardtops but with a fixed quarter glass.
                  Sedans have a frame around the door glass and yes there are 2 door sedans such as the 67-70 Valiant.
                  Coupe and hardtop will use the same headliner.
                   
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                  71-4 B bodies were available in a coupe as well as 68-70 B. Like a hardtop with fixed quarter glass.
                   
                • RustyRatRod

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                  So what were the 67-69 Barracudas that were non fastbacks?
                   
                • 65 Cuda 340

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                  Notchback is what Ford called their non-fastback Mustang. Or at least Mustang fans started calling them that. No Barracuda should ever be called a notchback.

                  Plymouth called its non-fastback hardtop a "hardtop coupe." And the Road Runner a "2-door coupe." This is direct from the 1968 factory dealer brochures.

                  And would you believe the 68 Barracuda convertible was referred to as a "convertible coupe"?

                  Fact is, the word "coupe" does not have an established definition, and over the years has been applied in a variety of ways to a variety of body styles. But probably most often to 2-door sedans.
                   
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                  • RustyRatRod

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                    Herein is the breakdown. It doesn't matter what "we" call it. It matters what Chrysler called it.
                     
                  • moparmarks

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                    2 door sedan doors. Sedans have a frame around the door glass, both 2 and 4 door.

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                    • moparmarks

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                      Actually is considered a coupe or a B pilar post. Not a sedan.
                       
                    • moparmarks

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                      BH29 they called a sport hardtop also known as the notch back.
                       
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