Hardtop vs Coupe vs Sedan

Mopar Interiors

  1. jcmeyer5

    jcmeyer5 Token Ford Guy

    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    420
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2019
    Location:
    Northeast Indiana
    Local Time:
    7:36 AM
    I hope I didnt f this up...

    Ordered a headliner for our 69 Dart 340 Swinger. Took 4 weeks to get it. The website said it was for a 67-72 Dart COUPE. It was the only option available. It didnt say SEDAN, so my logic said it was correct. It is a PUI Interiors part number AH750100. I checked their website, and they dont say hardtop vs sedan vs coupe.

    So the real question is... what the heck is a coupe?
     
  2. Professor Fate

    Professor Fate Push the button, Max...

    Messages:
    2,775
    Likes Received:
    3881
    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2020
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    Local Time:
    6:36 AM
    Coupe/hardtop should be the same (no B pillar). Sedan is 4 door or 2 door post.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • gdrill

      gdrill If you drink, think, before you type...... FABO Gold Member

      Messages:
      8,558
      Likes Received:
      11136
      Joined:
      Sep 26, 2011
      Location:
      Just North of Montana
      Local Time:
      5:36 AM
      Hardtop needs no explanation. Sedan is without a doubt a four door. Coupe could very well be a two door post.
       
      • Agree Agree x 2
      • jcmeyer5

        jcmeyer5 Token Ford Guy

        Messages:
        477
        Likes Received:
        420
        Joined:
        Jan 7, 2019
        Location:
        Northeast Indiana
        Local Time:
        7:36 AM
        ARG!! Conflicting information.

        The headliner I got have separate sail panels. I thought the headliner would install over the sail panel boards. Instead, what I received with the headliner is boards with material glued to them. I had purchased a set of boards from DMT and they are identical to the ones that have the material on them.

        Which is a lot to say... I still dont know if I got what I needed.
         
      • gdrill

        gdrill If you drink, think, before you type...... FABO Gold Member

        Messages:
        8,558
        Likes Received:
        11136
        Joined:
        Sep 26, 2011
        Location:
        Just North of Montana
        Local Time:
        5:36 AM
      • dadsbee

        dadsbee FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

        Messages:
        1,366
        Likes Received:
        3075
        Joined:
        Nov 25, 2020
        Location:
        Penetang, Ontario
        Local Time:
        7:36 AM
        A Coupe is a post car... also known as a Sedan but that generally refers to a 4 door. Hardtop has no B pillar..
         
      • Dana67Dart

        Dana67Dart The parts you don't add don't cause you no trouble FABO Gold Member

        Messages:
        8,319
        Likes Received:
        5843
        Joined:
        Jul 16, 2017
        Location:
        Northern Colorado
        Local Time:
        5:36 AM
        Convertibles don't have a B puller either so does that make them a hard top. :rolleyes:

        :rofl:
         
        • Like Like x 1
        • jcmeyer5

          jcmeyer5 Token Ford Guy

          Messages:
          477
          Likes Received:
          420
          Joined:
          Jan 7, 2019
          Location:
          Northeast Indiana
          Local Time:
          7:36 AM
          Another data point... Summit Racing says it applies to a 1969 Dart Swinger, GT, and GTS.
           
        • HemiSSDart

          HemiSSDart Dartus Interuptus

          Messages:
          2,038
          Likes Received:
          1599
          Joined:
          Feb 20, 2013
          Location:
          Illinoisy
          Local Time:
          7:36 AM
          Chrysler only had hardtops, sedans, and convertibles, there was NEVER a "coupe" in the muscle car era...
           
        • dadsbee

          dadsbee FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

          Messages:
          1,366
          Likes Received:
          3075
          Joined:
          Nov 25, 2020
          Location:
          Penetang, Ontario
          Local Time:
          7:36 AM
          That's funny Hemiss, I guess my car ownership is wrong. COUPE..
          bee&birdjuly182019 062.JPG
           
          • Agree Agree x 2
          • Bodyperson

            Bodyperson Pedal to the metal FABO Gold Member

            Messages:
            7,147
            Likes Received:
            10272
            Joined:
            Nov 26, 2015
            Location:
            NW MONTANA
            Local Time:
            5:36 AM
            Dont forget fastback. Notch back might be a coupe. I don't think a coupe can have a post.
             
          • jcmeyer5

            jcmeyer5 Token Ford Guy

            Messages:
            477
            Likes Received:
            420
            Joined:
            Jan 7, 2019
            Location:
            Northeast Indiana
            Local Time:
            7:36 AM
            Not trying to start a holy war here guys :)

            This headliner I received is HUGE. Probably twice as long as it needs to be. The sail panels that came with it are covered. All the pictures I have seen of hardtop headliners show the headliner going over the sail panel, not the sail panel having separate material.

            I am really hoping coupe = hardtop. I sent an email the PUI looking for guidance.
             
          • Bodyperson

            Bodyperson Pedal to the metal FABO Gold Member

            Messages:
            7,147
            Likes Received:
            10272
            Joined:
            Nov 26, 2015
            Location:
            NW MONTANA
            Local Time:
            5:36 AM
            You stay out of this.:poke: :lol:
             
            • Like Like x 2
            • Thanks! Thanks! x 1
            • HemiSSDart

              HemiSSDart Dartus Interuptus

              Messages:
              2,038
              Likes Received:
              1599
              Joined:
              Feb 20, 2013
              Location:
              Illinoisy
              Local Time:
              7:36 AM
              Notchback is what we call it, it is still a hardtop...
               
            • gdrill

              gdrill If you drink, think, before you type...... FABO Gold Member

              Messages:
              8,558
              Likes Received:
              11136
              Joined:
              Sep 26, 2011
              Location:
              Just North of Montana
              Local Time:
              5:36 AM

              Now that's funny!
               
              • Agree Agree x 3
              • Cuda Al

                Cuda Al Well-Known Member

                Messages:
                1,591
                Likes Received:
                1874
                Joined:
                Oct 21, 2007
                Location:
                Lompoc, CA
                Local Time:
                4:36 AM
                Coupes do not have roll down rear windows, pop-out maybe.


                Alan
                 
                • Agree Agree x 1
                • missing linc

                  missing linc Loose nut behind the wheel

                  Messages:
                  4,979
                  Likes Received:
                  9456
                  Joined:
                  Feb 17, 2019
                  Location:
                  Southern Alberta Canada
                  Local Time:
                  5:36 AM
                  Yes, like Dusters and Dart Sports, IMHO. A Swinger would be considered a hardtop.
                   
                • moparmarks

                  moparmarks zippindippintie FABO Gold Member

                  Messages:
                  1,957
                  Likes Received:
                  1087
                  Joined:
                  Oct 5, 2014
                  Location:
                  Western Colorado
                  Local Time:
                  5:36 AM
                  Coupes are like hardtops but with a fixed quarter glass.
                  Sedans have a frame around the door glass and yes there are 2 door sedans such as the 67-70 Valiant.
                  Coupe and hardtop will use the same headliner.
                   
                • moparmarks

                  moparmarks zippindippintie FABO Gold Member

                  Messages:
                  1,957
                  Likes Received:
                  1087
                  Joined:
                  Oct 5, 2014
                  Location:
                  Western Colorado
                  Local Time:
                  5:36 AM
                  71-4 B bodies were available in a coupe as well as 68-70 B. Like a hardtop with fixed quarter glass.
                   
                • RustyRatRod

                  RustyRatRod I was born on a Monday. Not last Monday. FABO Gold Member

                  Messages:
                  81,636
                  Likes Received:
                  61356
                  Joined:
                  Jun 7, 2010
                  Location:
                  Georgia
                  Local Time:
                  7:36 AM
                  So what were the 67-69 Barracudas that were non fastbacks?
                   
                • 65 Cuda 340

                  65 Cuda 340 FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

                  Messages:
                  788
                  Likes Received:
                  1122
                  Joined:
                  Dec 27, 2019
                  Location:
                  Tallahassee Florida
                  Local Time:
                  7:36 AM
                  Notchback is what Ford called their non-fastback Mustang. Or at least Mustang fans started calling them that. No Barracuda should ever be called a notchback.

                  Plymouth called its non-fastback hardtop a "hardtop coupe." And the Road Runner a "2-door coupe." This is direct from the 1968 factory dealer brochures.

                  And would you believe the 68 Barracuda convertible was referred to as a "convertible coupe"?

                  Fact is, the word "coupe" does not have an established definition, and over the years has been applied in a variety of ways to a variety of body styles. But probably most often to 2-door sedans.
                   
                  • Thanks! Thanks! x 1
                  • RustyRatRod

                    RustyRatRod I was born on a Monday. Not last Monday. FABO Gold Member

                    Messages:
                    81,636
                    Likes Received:
                    61356
                    Joined:
                    Jun 7, 2010
                    Location:
                    Georgia
                    Local Time:
                    7:36 AM
                    Herein is the breakdown. It doesn't matter what "we" call it. It matters what Chrysler called it.
                     
                  • moparmarks

                    moparmarks zippindippintie FABO Gold Member

                    Messages:
                    1,957
                    Likes Received:
                    1087
                    Joined:
                    Oct 5, 2014
                    Location:
                    Western Colorado
                    Local Time:
                    5:36 AM
                    2 door sedan doors. Sedans have a frame around the door glass, both 2 and 4 door.

                    20210418_162432.jpg
                     
                    • Like Like x 1
                    • moparmarks

                      moparmarks zippindippintie FABO Gold Member

                      Messages:
                      1,957
                      Likes Received:
                      1087
                      Joined:
                      Oct 5, 2014
                      Location:
                      Western Colorado
                      Local Time:
                      5:36 AM
                      Actually is considered a coupe or a B pilar post. Not a sedan.
                       
                    • moparmarks

                      moparmarks zippindippintie FABO Gold Member

                      Messages:
                      1,957
                      Likes Received:
                      1087
                      Joined:
                      Oct 5, 2014
                      Location:
                      Western Colorado
                      Local Time:
                      5:36 AM
                      BH29 they called a sport hardtop also known as the notch back.
                       
                    1. This site uses cookies to help personalize content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                      By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.