Rat Bastid
Dunamis Metron
There is some real confusion about headers. So I’m going to post the actual FACTS about Hooker headers and part numbers. There is no reason for anyone to reply to the thread. I post it only for educational purposes.
Here is a picture of the November 1983 HOOKER catalog. You can’t get a better source than this.
Here is page 2 of that catalog. Notice there is no such thing as a “super comp” header. That didn’t start until the real late 1980’s or early 1990’s. It was for marketing purposes.
Also note that there are TWO Competition headers for A bodies with a small block. The 5303 with 1.875 tubes and a 3 inch collector for production heads. And the 5322 with 2 inch tubes and a 3.5 in collector for W2 heads. Both headers are adjustable race headers so they have slip on collectors and they came with 2 different lengths of primary tubes and 18 inch collector extensions. That’s why they are called adjustable race headers. Hooker called them “competition race headers”.
Here is page 9 of that catalog. In 1983 they didn’t even call them the idiotic “super competition” name. They called them what they actually are, which is an “auto header” or a street header.
Sorry for the double picture. You can see for A body small block stuff there is just TWO part numbers. One is 1.625 tubes and a 3 inch collector. It’s your run of the mill cheap header. I used to know the retail number for the 5116 and I think in 1980 it was about 119 bucks. The 5204 header has 1.75 tubes and a 3 inch collector. The number 1 and 2 tubes on both headers are slip fit BUT its still a street header. They started calling this header “super competition” long after I bought my first set. That 5204 retailed in 1980 for 249 dollars IIRC. In 1984 when I bought my first set of 5303 (competition) headers they were over 600 dollars. That was a lot of money then. Even the 5204’s were considered expensive and not worth the money then.
So there you have it, right from the manufacturer. If you have a Hooker header and the collectors are welded on, it’s a STREET header and it doesn’t matter what the marketing department put on it.
It was the exact same thing with Hedman headers. That was the cheap, didn’t fit worth a **** brand. Hedman Hustler headers were the competition line and the vast majority of those headers were adjustable.
I know this won’t settle it because some will argue anything even with the facts presented as simply as possible.
Here is a picture of the November 1983 HOOKER catalog. You can’t get a better source than this.
Here is page 2 of that catalog. Notice there is no such thing as a “super comp” header. That didn’t start until the real late 1980’s or early 1990’s. It was for marketing purposes.
Also note that there are TWO Competition headers for A bodies with a small block. The 5303 with 1.875 tubes and a 3 inch collector for production heads. And the 5322 with 2 inch tubes and a 3.5 in collector for W2 heads. Both headers are adjustable race headers so they have slip on collectors and they came with 2 different lengths of primary tubes and 18 inch collector extensions. That’s why they are called adjustable race headers. Hooker called them “competition race headers”.
Here is page 9 of that catalog. In 1983 they didn’t even call them the idiotic “super competition” name. They called them what they actually are, which is an “auto header” or a street header.
Sorry for the double picture. You can see for A body small block stuff there is just TWO part numbers. One is 1.625 tubes and a 3 inch collector. It’s your run of the mill cheap header. I used to know the retail number for the 5116 and I think in 1980 it was about 119 bucks. The 5204 header has 1.75 tubes and a 3 inch collector. The number 1 and 2 tubes on both headers are slip fit BUT its still a street header. They started calling this header “super competition” long after I bought my first set. That 5204 retailed in 1980 for 249 dollars IIRC. In 1984 when I bought my first set of 5303 (competition) headers they were over 600 dollars. That was a lot of money then. Even the 5204’s were considered expensive and not worth the money then.
So there you have it, right from the manufacturer. If you have a Hooker header and the collectors are welded on, it’s a STREET header and it doesn’t matter what the marketing department put on it.
It was the exact same thing with Hedman headers. That was the cheap, didn’t fit worth a **** brand. Hedman Hustler headers were the competition line and the vast majority of those headers were adjustable.
I know this won’t settle it because some will argue anything even with the facts presented as simply as possible.
