HELP NEEDED!! torsion bar tool

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  1. DartDude335

    DartDude335 Well-Known Member

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    Do any of my Colorado friends have a torsion bar tool I can barrow or enlist their help with rebuilding my front end on my '72 dart?
     
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    you shouldn't need one ,when removing the lca --use that assembly to pry the torsion bar out the back side (remove the retaining clip).
    You might have to clean ups some road grime around the torsion bar mounting area-- but it should come out rather smoothly ,Lawrence
     
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    he is quick ^^^ ...I was going to say the exact same thing ...I have disassembled a lot of cars and I have never needed a T-bar tool.

    if you have to smack it with a hammer repeatedly then that means something is still binding it....shouldn't have to beat up the T-bar to get it out.

    make sure the lower control arm nut is off and the adjuster bolt backed off completely
     
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    ok thanks! I was told that the T-bar was under tension and it could spring back if I didnt use the tool to hold it
     
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    burdar Owen's Dad

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    In Iowa, things rust everywhere. One bar on the Challenger was a PITA to remove even with the tool I made. The bar was rusted in the LCA. I used the tool on the Dart as well. They came out much nicer. Just clamp the tool to the bar, and tap on the tool with a rubber hammer...no damage to the bar at all.

    The tool I made was just a short chunk of thick angle iron with holes drilled in it for two small U-bolts.
     
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    dartdude-- you really need to read up on your rebuild -- no lca/torsion bar work is done with the tension still on the t bars -- you need to back the adjuster screw off completely.

    to get the lca out , the strut rods & the torsion bars make sure the tension is gone

    I'm also in the land of rust (Kansas) & so far have been lucky with the removal of said torsion bars. Lawrence
     
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    I used a pipe wrench had just push on it. Worked all the time
     
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    Good ole Kansas! Im from Great Bend so i know how that goes ...wichita eh? say hi to Damm Music and the Damm Pharmacy for me !! (my cousin and uncles shops)
     
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    Oklacarcollecto Life is an experiment

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    The teeth marks left by a pipe wrench can cause the torsion bars to snap later.
     
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    burdar Owen's Dad

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    I agree. You have to make sure there are no sharp gouges in the bar. That's where a stress crack will start. I had some minor scrapes just from 90,000 miles of normal use. I made sure to sand them out as best I could.
     
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    DO NOT use any tool that marks up the T bars!!!!!!
     
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    U-bolt, piece of wood for handle. Use rubber tubing on U-bolt to avoid scratches.

    Loosening the nut at front of control arm, will release any bushing pre-load. Make sure adjuster is loose. Often bar will come out just with hands. Tighten nut to spec only after ride height is set, for zero bushing pre-load.
     
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    this^^^^^^^
     
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    i've never needed a tool..

    i always just:

    unload the bar
    remove the clip (cross member)
    split the lower ball joint
    take the strut rod nut off
    take the lower control arm nut off
    then just tap the lower arm back. usually doesn't take much to push the torsion bar right out.


    and never use a pipe wrench or anything that will gouge the bar or hit the bar with a hammer unless you are just trashing them.
     
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    two pieces of flat bar with holes drilled in them and two bolts and nuts to connect them together and tighten them nuts till you cant grunt no more or you crap your pants .... then tap the t-bars out.
     
  16. fixitfirstime

    fixitfirstime LOL Junior Member right..

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    yea, I have the tool
     
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