intake alignment?

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  1. j.d.duggan

    j.d.duggan Well-Known Member

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    I have a weind stealth intake that cam off a motor that had been squared and decked,pistons came out of holes .020 and the heads had been worked,ported, polished,and milled(not sure how much)I,m trying to figure out if maybe they cut the intake down to match that work.when I put it on my engine it seems to narrow.the gasket seal line on the intake gasket sets high enough on the head that it shows above the intake.any ideas of how to check this? Thanks for help.
     
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    When’s our set the intake on the engine with the gaskets in place, do the bolt holes line up? In other words can you put in the intake bolts in? Sounds like the threads in the head are too high?
     
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    Maybe not any help here, but I stumbled across something that seems to be working well for me , on a 2954 victor. The bolt holes are more perfect than any intake I`ve messed with so far.
    To check port and gasket alignment and to keep checking the same over and over while working on them, I have always used oversize bolts to line everything up , I got the idea of sleeving the 3/8" bolts I`ll be using to run it on the engine, a 3/8" copper sweat coupling with the stop rib filed out of the center fits over the bolt and locates the victor intake perfectly, also works well on the gasket when checking for alinment on the heads too---- just a thot----
     
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      Look at the pictures in post 149 of the thread below. He shows what H22A4 is talking about.
      With heads in place, both intake gaskets in place, and intake sitting down in place as much as possible, visually look into the intake bolt holes. They should line up with the head bolt holes.
      Junkyard 5.9L Magnum + Edelbrock LA heads build
       
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      • j.d.duggan

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        bolt holes in head are to high,if I lift the intake up I can put the bolts in but then I have pretty big gap between intake and head.thought about bolting one side only down-no gasket,then I could mic the gap between the other head and intake.
         
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        Sounds like the intake has been machined. You may need to use 2 intake gaskets on each side.
         
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          Are you trying to use original style steel gaskets, or the replacement style soft material gaskets?
          Like toolmanmike said, you need more thickness in your gaskets.
           
        • j.d.duggan

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          is that not a problem?,do you use some type of rtv between them and on heads and intake?have you ever ran 2 intake gaskets?
           
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          j.d.duggan Well-Known Member

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          I have a set of paper(for lack of a better word)that came in a master rebuild gasket set.it also has the steel intake gasket.
           
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          rumblefish360 so close yet so far away

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          How much of a gap do you have?
          I would try 2 intake gaskets glued togther at max but honestly a new intake is the better route.
           
        • j.d.duggan

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          do not know for sure rumble,see post #5 will try to get a good measurement tomorrow.
           
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          Felpro has steel, kit style blue composite ms90109 .030ish thick, and race style paper 1213 type with blue pinstriped port/water seals thick .060

          Which are you using?

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        • j.d.duggan

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          blue paper style
           
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          So the bottom pictured, paper, blue pinstripe .060 thick.


          Buy a new intake, but before that...see how a stock one fits and let us know.
           
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          top pic looks like the one I have
           
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          Buy the the 1213 then , bottom pic then...its .060/thicker.

          I like the ones you have, they don't sponge oil and rip n delaminate when swapping intakes...and they usually allow a tight manifold to just fit @.030 thick. If I'm milling, I figure for those 90109's.
           
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          This is the paperwork that came with my brand new Action Plus. Mine didn't sit correctly either. Too much of a gap between the head and the manifold. I talked to my neighborhood speed shop and he said to "just bolt it up, it should be fine". I used the thick gaskets and still had trouble getting it to seal. Never could get the water jacket to not seep. I bought a RPM Air Gap and it went together perfectly. Anyone wanna buy a gently used Action Plus?

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            MopaR&D Research And Destroy

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            Mother ******! lol... I couldn't find those thinner gaskets on Summit I bet they would have solved my problem. If we were closer we could have just traded! I have the bottom ones and am now getting my intake milled because it sits too high... oh well I think the thicker gaskets work better anyway.
             
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            yesterday I put the intake on with no gaskets,.060 feeler gauge under the 4 corners,snugged the bolts down,feeler gauge seemed to lock into place.Think I may be OK with the thicker gaskets.ordered a set,be here in a week,time will tell.:drama:
             
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