Kframe, engine bay, front suspension questions

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  1. CFD244

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    Lookin' good Steve. Nice job on the shocks:thumbsup:. Let me know if you need the K/H lowers.
     
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      Thanks Troy! Yer talkin ball joints? I was gonna run old ones, BUT they both need boots lol.... :BangHead: and I would need to drill one out as its drum.
       
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        Looks good! Much better and now It has some protection. Did you wind up sanding between coats?
         
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        • 4spdragtop

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          Thanks, I only sanded where there was a blemish/fuzz. I didnt end up sanding for smoothness. I googled and 99% of the results were to not sand the base coat. Definitely an acquired skill whether gun or spray bomb lol.
           
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          • Ironracer

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            I had NAPA blend and can the metal flake burgundy for my 66 Sat. 3 cans did it... if you go that route..
             
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              Nice. Brushed? Cool deal..
               
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              I, Am, by no means, a restoration pro. But I bought two Mopars ( l
              the last 2 ive had) by two different, well off guys, that " redid every thing!" When you've got one bolt in a power steering box and it's only halfway tight, I wouldn't consider that redone. Or a "rebuilt" front end that you take apart because its a really old, abused one....I could go on. Anyhow the point I think I was trying to make is when you see Shady stuff and you want to rip it down it reminds me of walking into some of these old houses and wonder, what kind of crap they got behind the walls! And You'd be amazed at the faulty Electrical, Plumbing, and framing, I see behind shoddy drywall work. Its a sight and a sign of trouble
               
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                I picked up polyurethane ball joint covers for my old joints that were still tight as heck, but had ripped boots. Those are the only things I was able to save on a " rebuilt " front end...
                 
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                • kursplat

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                  careful, it's going to look too nice and you won't want to sell it :D
                   
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                    Good job Steve. Kim
                     
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                      So sifting thru decades old stuff for the front end. Strut rod bushings.... the ones on left Energy Suspension polyurethane. On right are moog. Where the strut rod goes thru LCA, is there supposed to be a bushing in there? Or does the strut rod only get bushings on front of rod thru Kframe?
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                      Nope. It just bolts solid to the LCA. It's a tight fit.
                       
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                        thanks!:thumbsup: I thought maybe the ES ones were supposed to go in the LCA. Looks like I got 2 different sets(1 moog and 1 ES). I'll go Moog
                        THANKS.
                         
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                        The ones on the left are correct for 72 down. The others are 73 up and are longer so u would need to cut them down or get 73 up strutt rods. Kim
                         
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                        This is on our 69. Now that its loosely installed with Moog on front and no bushing on rear, it looks right? Original 69 strut rods. That's what I want to use.
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                        Looks right to me, but Kim suggested that they (on the right) are for '73 and up, and the others (on the left) are for 72 and down?
                         
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                        Is the nut screwed down to the sleeve? If so u don’t have room for the roll pin. Kim
                         
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                        There is no sleeve. I think the sleeves were for 73+??
                        Here is what bushings and cups look like on strut rod, not installed.
                        Threads on strut rod are 9/16" fine.
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                        Snugged up the front nut, backed off nut at LCA end.
                        Looks good to me? Leaving everything loose. Drive side next, then gotta figure out the torsion bars.

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                        • CFD244

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                          What did you finally torque the front nuts to?
                           
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                            Didnt torque yet. Gotta put torsion bars in. Need clips for the bars...:BangHead:
                             
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                              Gotcha.
                               
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                                I picked up a set of the Moog problem solvers last year somebody had them in a warehouse took me like 2 months to get em. They're obsolete now ( per Moog rep) I think it's an issue being able to get the good rubber i dunno. I told him I'm sure there's many people that would disagree with them being discontinued. If I could share the PDFs that I got from Moog,( when I called, they emailed me) I would. But it's 40 -60 at k member,and 135-150 at LCA. There are different specs for different applications, those are for 2 pieces w/ sleeve.. Also, unless the washers are labeled differently, or you have different instructions, the washer closest to the bumper cups around the bushing, the one on the back side of the opening in the K member ( closer to rear) the round part of the washer faces forward, the open part back, that allows it to swivel more. If anybody wants or needs a copy of that PDF I can email it to you no problem
                                 
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                                • Ironracer

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                                  73 up is corse threads up front , not sure about sleeves, except 73 definitely uses them
                                   
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                                  Ok so got some goodies from @kursplat , thanks again!:thumbsup: Torsion bar boots and all 4 tie rods!
                                  The tbar boots are energy suspension poly. They are for the hex socket in the frame, NOT the LCA correct?
                                  Also, which way do they go on the back end of bar?
                                  Thanks all
                                  Steve

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