Lokar kick down cable question or 2 maybe

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Is the Lokar cable any good?

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  1. Jadaharabi

    Jadaharabi FABO Gold Member FABO Gold Member

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    I just bought a flexible kick down cable.
    Are you suppose to fill the housing with grease or run it dry?
     
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    diymirage HP@idle > hondaHP@redline

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    neither, graphite powder
     
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    • Dusterdenovo

      Dusterdenovo Contentedly Old School

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      I ran mine as-is (dry).

      Works just fine (perfectly). Stock throttle cable and some excellent brackets from ARE.

      A return spring on the trans lever also smartened it up.
       
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      • dartfreak75

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        Show some installation pictures! Im curious how they hook up I fought like hell to not go that route on my dart just because I wanted it to look "original" lol
         
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        flingdingo Well-Known Member

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        The biggest thing for me was finding the right lever/bracket thingy on the Trans side.

        My stock one wouldn't allow the cable to give a full sweep. It needed to be a little longer and bent like a banana to work.

        I found one from a 90's Era van that worked perfectly and it's given me zero trouble after the initial adjustments.
         
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        • kiwigtx

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          I run a 108" Lokar throttle cable and the Lokar kick down cable on the A100. Had to get the special bracket for both cables to mount on the Holley Sniper throttle body baseplate.

          I also do not put any lube in the Lokar cables.

          You can attach a saddle to secure the Lokar at the rear of the transmission to prevent it flailing around. Adjustment is easy with the cable.

          DO NOT FEAR THE CABLE. :lol:
           
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          • Jadaharabi

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            Chrysler 727, 904, and 518 Hi-Tech Kickdown Kit Installation Instructions
            General Installation Notes:
            Please read these instructions completely before beginning the installation. If you have any questions, please call.
            Before beginning the installation, disconnect the negative battery cable and use wheel chocks to block the vehicle's wheels.
            Make sure the engine, transmission, body and frame are properly grounded. We recommend using anti-seize lubricant on all aluminum threads.
            NOTE: This Lokar Kickdown Kit is designed to be installed with a Lokar Cable Mounting Bracket (not included, available separately). The cable housing and inner wire are designed to be cut-to-fit.
            Refer to Figs. 1 and 2 for the component names.
            Step 1: Remove the cable end stop, kickdown throttle body fitting, and kickdown cable adjuster from the end of the inner wire. If you have the braided stainless steel housing, make sure you DO NOT remove the ferrule from the cable housing. Leave the kickdown mounting bracket on the kickdown cable adjuster. Remove the inner wire from the cable housing, and remove the transmission cable end assembly from the inner wire.
            Step 2: Remove the lower left tail housing bolt from the transmission. Install the trans cable bracket and the cable housing onto the tail housing bolt, and reinstall onto the transmission as shown in Fig. 3.
            Step 3: Install the transmission cable end assembly onto the original factory kickdown lever (not included) on the transmission, with the flat washer on top and the 1/4"-28 nylock jam nut underneath. Fig. 4
            Step 4: If the Throttle Cable has already been installed, disconnect the Throttle Cable from the throttle arm. If the engine already has a Cable Mounting Bracket installed, remove the throttle cable adjuster. Leave the Cable Mounting Bracket in place. If the engine does not have a Cable Mounting Bracket already installed, install one now, following the installation instructions that were provided with the Cable Mounting Bracket.
            Step 5: The kickdown mounting bracket mounts onto the back side of the Cable Mounting Bracket. The throttle cable adjuster will pass through the top hole in both the new kickdown mounting bracket AND the Cable Mounting Bracket. Position the kickdown mounting bracket behind the Cable Mounting Bracket so that the 5/16" diameter holes at the top of both brackets are aligned, the small 3/16" diameter holes near the center of the two brackets are aligned, and the kickdown cable adjuster is offset towards the driver side of the vehicle.
            © 2008 Lokar, Inc.
            Chrysler 727, 904, and 518 Hi-Tech Kickdown Kit Installation Instructions
            Building American Quality… With A Lifetime Warranty! ® TOLL FREE 1-877-469-7440 • tech@lokar.comwww.lokar.com
            Step 5: (Continued) Attach the kickdown mounting bracket to the Cable Mounting Bracket using the supplied #8-32 x 1/2" button head bolt and nylock nut through the small 3/16" diameter center holes in both brackets, but do not tighten yet. Insert the throttle cable adjuster (with the rear nut still installed) from the rear through the top holes in both brackets. Position it so that the threaded part of the throttle cable adjuster is approximately centered in the Cable Mounting Bracket. Reinstall the front adjuster nut.
            Tighten the throttle cable adjuster nuts, the button head bolt and nut, and the kickdown cable adjuster nuts. Fig. 5
            Step 6: Route the cable housing up to the kickdown cable adjuster. Make sure that the inner wire is removed from the cable housing! If the cable housing is braided stainless steel, slide the ferrule down the housing towards the transmission, away from the end that is being cut. Fig. 6 DO NOT remove the ferrule from the braided stainless steel housing! If the cable housing is black universal or Vintage Series, remove the ferrule.
            Measure the distance between the kickdown cable adjuster and the trans cable bracket. Add 1" to the measurement and mark the cable housing at that length.
            If the cable housing is braided stainless steel, wrap tape around the cable housing at your mark and use a cutoff wheel or fine-toothed hacksaw to cut the cable housing. If the Kickdown Cable housing is black universal or Vintage Series, cut the cable housing at your mark with heavy duty 8" diagonal cutting pliers or a hacksaw. Lokar recommends Klein brand Diagonal Cutting Pliers, # D2000-28 available at The Home Depot or through W.W. Graingers, Part # 4A838.
            After cutting the cable housing, put the ferrule back in place at the end of the cable housing. Insert the cable housing and ferrule into the kickdown cable adjuster.
            Step 7: The tear drop (not included, comes with the Cable Mounting Bracket) will be attached to the throttle arm by the hex carb fitting. Separate the hex carb fitting from the kickdown throttle body fitting. Install the hex carb fitting and the tear drop onto the throttle arm as shown in Fig. 7. Hook the springs to the tear drop and tighten the nylock nut on the hex carb fitting. Then, back the nylock nut off just enough that the tear drop can pivot freely.
            Page 1
            #8-32 x 1/2" Button Head Bolt with Nylock Nut
            Kickdown Mounting Bracket
            Cable End Stop
            Kickdown Throttle Body Fitting
            Hex Carb Fitting
            Throttle End
            Wire Adjuster Inner
            Ferrule (DO NOT REMOVE if your Cable Housing is braided stainless steel!)
            Nuts Kickdown Cable Adjuster
            Cable Housing
            Fig. 1
            Cable Housing
            Trans Cable Bracket
            INS0046 Rev. 07/20/2021
            Transmission Cable End Assembly
            Transmission End
            Inner Wire
            1/4"-28 Nylock Jam Nut and Flat Washer
            F
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            Step 8: Insert the inner wire all the way into the transmission cable end assembly and tighten the set screw using the provided 3/32" Allen wrench. Then, thread the inner wire up through the cable housing to the throttle.
            Step 9: Before connecting the Kickdown Cable to the throttle arm, make sure that the throttle linkage is properly adjusted. Verify at the throttle that it is wide open while you have a helper hold the accelerator pedal to the floor. Once you are sure that the throttle linkage is adjusted correctly, slide the kickdown throttle body fitting onto the kickdown cable inner wire, and connect the kickdown throttle body fitting to the hex carb fitting.
            Step 10: This step will also be much easier with a helper. Slide the kickdown cable end stop onto the inner wire. Move the throttle to wide open and hold it there. With the throttle held wide open, pull the kickdown inner wire as tight as possible, making sure you get full travel out of the kickdown lever on the transmission. Slide the cable end stop up against the kickdown throttle body fitting and tighten the set screw using the supplied 5/64" Allen wrench. Release the throttle.
            When the Kickdown Cable is properly adjusted you should be able to open the throttle to the wide open position without interference from the Kickdown Cable; and with the throttle wide open, you should not have any slack in the Kickdown Cable.
            Double check to be sure that all throttle and kickdown linkage operates freely without binding. Test drive the vehicle. Once the Kickdown Cable is correctly adjusted and operating properly you can cut off the excess inner wire, leaving about 1/2" extending beyond the cable end stop to allow for future adjustment if needed.
            Final installation should look like Fig. 7 and Fig. 8.
            © 2008 Lokar, Inc.
            Chrysler 727, 904, and 518 Hi-Tech Kickdown Kit Installation Instructions
            Cable Mounting Bracket (not included)
            Adjuster Nuts (not included)
            #8-32 x 1/2" Button Head Bolt with Nylock Nut
            Tail Housing Bolt
            Cable Housing
            Flat Washer
            1/4"-28 Nylock Nut
            Inner Wire
            Transmission Cable End Assembly
            Trans Cable Bracket
            Fig. 3 Fig. 4 Fig. 5
            Throttle Cable
            Adjuster (not included)
            Kickdown Mounting Bracket
            Kickdown Cable Adjuster
            Adjuster Nuts
            SRK-4000 Cable Mounting Bracket shown, other applications are similar
            Ferrule slid past the cut line
            Transmission
            Cable Housing
            Trans Cable Bracket
            INS0046 Rev. 07/20/2021
            With the braided stainless steel Cable Housing, slide the Ferrule down the Housing past the cut line before cutting the Housing.
            Cut Line
            Throttle Cable Adjuster
            Ferrule
            Throttle Cable Housing
            Kickdown Mounting Bracket
            Kickdown Cable Housing
            Carburetor Base
            Cable Mounting Bracket
            Kickdown Kit shown installed with Lokar Throttle Cable (not included) and Cable Mounting Bracket and Springs # SRK-4000 (not included)
            Page 2
            Throttle Arm
            Hex Carb Fitting
            Fig. 7
            Inner Wire removed before cutting the Cable Housing
            Fig. 6
            Transmission Cable End Assembly
            Fig. 8
            Carb End
            Tear Drop
            Cable End Stop
            Kickdown Throttle Body Fitting
            Inner Wire
             

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            You can leave length on the throttle cable outer sheath.....just don't cut it short.

            Measure 4 times and cut once. :lol:
             
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            • Jadaharabi

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            • Jadaharabi

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              Called Lokar today. Was told to not put anything in the housing, that it is teflon lined and will last for years as is.
               
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              • MoparLeo

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                Too much /wrong lube is worse than no lube on many things. Oils and greases attract dirt/debris eventually clogging up passages.
                Always read/follow the manufacturers recommendations, instructions.
                 
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                • Jadaharabi

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                  Boy talk about a lot of fun. The part that goes to the valve body kickdown was a piece of cake. However thermoquads do not have a lever piece to their throttle that hangs down so that you can hook this thing up to it. So I had to fabricate 1.
                  Silly as it sounds it came to me in a dream. A kickdown lever from the transmission modified to fit the carburetor.

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                  • seabee

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                  • dartfreak75

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                  • dartfreak75

                    dartfreak75 Restore it, Dont part it! FABO Gold Member

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                    Damn ain't you crafty!! I like it! Looks like something I'd do. Haha
                     
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