1. George Jets

    George Jets 1967 Dart 2 Door FABO Gold Member

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    I have sewing skills, and have some basic materials here where I am now. Looking at a simple, fast to put together mask design, and available cotton etc. materials to make them out of for the larger numbers coming up. Figure out what to do and how to do it and gather up a small team to get going on it.

    I am sure there is a huge void to fill after the medical industry gets first dibbs on everything.

    Seeing what is going to work for particular groups of people . . . first line of defense for starters.

    Figure it out from there . . .
     
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      A woman from a dentist office was in the radio today saying they are donating all their mask to local hospitals. She also mentioned that planned parenthood is still up and running and hanging onto their masks.
       
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      • George Jets

        George Jets 1967 Dart 2 Door FABO Gold Member

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        There are lots of people around the country that are already sewing up the "First Line of Defense" masks for general use. Hats off to them for gearing up and getting things started.

        Manufactured these Traveling Bags from concept to finished product. Made approximately 50 of them. Should be able to come up with "First Line of Defense" Masks that gives some basic protection to get things started. Can get more intense with them and what they will filter as time moves on.

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        Knowing that Covid-19 virus is transfered to the next person by breathing it in. First Line of Defense Masks are a great place to start, even if you are just out walking around minding your own business.

        May inspire others to come up with the next best thing too.
         
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            I guess you know Canada did that and they are "expired".
            I can't say I understand.
            If they are stored correctly do they break down that quickly?
            That MAY be some of that legal medical liability stuff that has kept 3M from designating no more than 5 million of the 35 million a month they can produce as "medical" till now.
             
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              Some bean counter thought it made sense.
               
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                and they are made in China
                 
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                One question that needs to be asked, why are the hospitals going through so many masks. My wife is a retired nurse with working 30 plus years in all various aspects of patient care. She told me if they are disposing masks after each use they are being wasted. The hospitals that she worked at had policies that one mask per person was needed per shift. Even in the cases where she took care of people in isolation. Only time a mask was changed if it was soiled. I can see changing a mask if a patient were to cough or sneeze in your face. Also, a mask can be sanitized by merely wiping with a sanitized wipe.
                 
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                  Im curious about expiration dates on masks also. Heard the same thing up here in Canada about expired ones being thrown out? After SARS, they were mandated to keep higher stock levels, but what's with expiration date?
                  Bless you George and others for doing this.
                   
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                  in st louis, some ladies were making masks but were told the hospitals would not accept them because they "NOT FDA APPROVED". bout time that the FDA was disbanded and all them be put into ........
                   
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                    They don’t have the government mandated warning labels affixed to them warning of choking, not being edible, possible death if incorrectly worn, not being toys etc etc
                     
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                  • George Jets

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                    OK @adriver got this Protection Mask design "Pattern" off your above post #29 link.

                    Made up the first one as a rough draft, so far so good.

                    Looking into other materials and sewing assembly techniques. Doing some more thinking to help speed up the assembly/sewing process.

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                    Others feel free to hop in and start making masks in your area. There is a huge shortage for all people.

                    This whole virus thing is going to get worse before it gets better. Main virus transmission is by breathing it in, from an infected person spreading it around unknowingly.

                    A few cities away from me they are doing a stay at home lockdown in Orlando starting Thursday evening for 2 weeks as their virus rates are multiplying fast by the day.

                    Wisconsin is closing the highway boarders to Minnesota on Thursday, closed to all non essential traffic.

                    Stay Home, Stay Safe . . .
                     
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                      These masks are not to designed to keep you from getting it... through they may help. They are to help limit you from spreading it.

                      My wife is involved in a sewing group, and they are going to try to make some of these.
                       
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                      • George Jets

                        George Jets 1967 Dart 2 Door FABO Gold Member

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                        2nd design for masks. This one sews together faster, material does not frey when the patterns are cut.

                        Can wash them with detergent and reuse them over and over.

                        Keeps it's shape nice too. Working to come up with some adjustable straps, so they can fit different people.

                        Looking into some different filtering materials.

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                          Here's a tip for us car guys-

                          If you already own one of the popular 3M 5300 series respirators used for painting, you already have an N95 spec system!

                          In fact, the replaceable filters could even be P95 spec which is actually better.

                          Additionally, they are better sealing and are adjustable.

                          Not only that, there is valving to control intake through the filters, and exhaust through a central valve.

                          Now that I've bought enough for my family at "normal" pricing of about $25 with free shipping I feel free to let the secret out.

                          I bet the prices soar once the general population figures this out.
                           
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                          diymirage HP@idle > hondaHP@redline

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                          figured I would let you know what they are doing at the wife's office
                          as you know, a local church made several cloth masks, which of course are not up to the same standards as the N95s
                          so they are using thier N95s under these cloth masks and that allows them to use the N95s much longer
                          (the cloth ones of course get washed daily)
                           
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                          • George Jets

                            George Jets 1967 Dart 2 Door FABO Gold Member

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                            Yep, here is another good one:
                            3M 07193
                            Charcol Respirators with Pre Filters

                            Made in the USA too . . .

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                            I posted this on the b body side and a member commented on the unfiltered exhaust air not protecting others.

                            That's a valid concern, but at the next stage of the game, I'm less concerned about others as I am about my self and family.

                            I don't intend to go out (and have not in the past) while sick.

                            But if I HAVE to go out among potential carriers who don't yet show symptoms, I want to protect ME.

                            BTW, the one I've had for about 8 years says "made in china" on it.
                             
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                            Went grocery shopping today, wore one of these simple masks.

                            Something is better than nothing. The way the virus is spreading though out the nation, a person needs every edge you can get.

                            Others in the store are now wearing masks too.

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