Need help adjusting-Ladder bars

Mopar Racers Forum

  1. swifter

    swifter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,417
    Likes Received:
    28
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Location:
    wis
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    It will my first time adjusting ladder bars and have been studying Dave Morgans book but not understanding completely,With the new trany we need to take some hit out cause Zach's pulling the wheels 6ft in the air sure it looks cool and he gets off on it but it's not helping so I have to take some hit out,So front bolts are in the middle hole but don't know if we just take bolts out and pull the bars down to the bottom hole and then adjust pinion angle???? or do we pull the bolts out and use the rear bar adjusters to lower the front down to the bottom holes but then how do we adjust pinion angle ???? Thanks in advance I know someone will help--Steve
     
  2. sbmmustang

    sbmmustang Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    357
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    Location:
    San Antonio,TX
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    Take out front bolt and put it where you want and adjust for pinion.
     
  3. sbmmustang

    sbmmustang Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    357
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    Location:
    San Antonio,TX
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    If its wheel standing now? Have you tried to stiffen up the shocks on extension front and rear first.
     
  4. Coronet 500

    Coronet 500 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    434
    Likes Received:
    90
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2011
    Location:
    Ontario Canada
    Local Time:
    10:11 PM
    Try lowering one side with the lower adjuster while the other maintains pinion angle. Then do the other while the previous one maintains it. Verify angle and fine adjust with both if necessary.
     
  5. OldmanRick

    OldmanRick Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    7,098
    Likes Received:
    318
    Joined:
    May 11, 2012
    Location:
    Ladson, Sc
    Local Time:
    10:11 PM
    x2...
     
  6. swifter

    swifter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,417
    Likes Received:
    28
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Location:
    wis
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    Thank you-steve
     
  7. swifter

    swifter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,417
    Likes Received:
    28
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Location:
    wis
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    So we adjust for pinion angle with the double adjusters on the axle side of the bars-correct???? Steve
     
  8. sbmmustang

    sbmmustang Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    357
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    Location:
    San Antonio,TX
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    Yes the double adjuster is usually on the bottom of the ladder bar.
     
  9. dwire67

    dwire67 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    992
    Likes Received:
    12
    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2009
    Location:
    Clarksburg NJ
    Local Time:
    10:11 PM
    Try tightening up the front shocks -if they are too loose they cause the weight to transfer too quick and make for a harder hit.
     
  10. Cudafever

    Cudafever Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,941
    Likes Received:
    1349
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2009
    Local Time:
    8:11 PM

    I didn't quite get it when i first read that....................

    But YES! A GRATE IDEA! that way your pinion angle stays the same.

    I have a friend, that has a ladder bar setup and i have been trying to get him to do some experimenting on his bars.

    He always tells me, Nah, it's to big of a pain in the #@$%$ to set the pinion angle!

    I may try to twist his arm one more time!
     
  11. swifter

    swifter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,417
    Likes Received:
    28
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Location:
    wis
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    Yea Jason-we even put the spacers back in the front and it still pulls way up up and away!!!!!! I went to cheap on the front shocks (comp. eng.) i need to update to double adjust. Steve
     
  12. swifter

    swifter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,417
    Likes Received:
    28
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Location:
    wis
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    THANKS CUDA -That makes sense !!!!!! Steve
     
  13. swifter

    swifter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,417
    Likes Received:
    28
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Location:
    wis
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    Heading to t&t tonight decided to not move the ladder bars yet going to focus on adjusting rear shocks and front end travel first cause the car hooks so good i dont want to screw that up-will report back-steve
     
  14. swifter

    swifter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,417
    Likes Received:
    28
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Location:
    wis
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    Yep was able to adjust rear shocks and ride height with the torsion bars and it helped greatly-thanks steve
     
  15. oktire

    oktire oktire

    Messages:
    105
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Location:
    minnesota
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    The lower you move the front of the ladder bars the harder the hit. you still need to adjust the pinion but its not to bad it you have top double adjusters.
     
  16. bOb shingler

    bOb shingler Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,252
    Likes Received:
    157
    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2007
    Location:
    warrenton, north carolina
    Local Time:
    10:11 PM
    ya reckon this might be backwards?
     
  17. Valiant Steve

    Valiant Steve Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    164
    Likes Received:
    16
    Joined:
    May 13, 2010
    Location:
    Niagara Falls NY
    Local Time:
    10:11 PM
    Steve if you want to calm the leave down on that car loosen the rear shocks I'd try setting them about 3 clicks out leave the bars alone set the front shocks on 50/50 setting put the upper control arm limiter rubbers back in then go in the car and change the launch rpm setting from 3400 to 4800 this will make the car leave softer believe me I do know how to set that car up. the one thing guys don't understand is the lower you set your launch rpm the more the converter can flash or freewheel which in turn causes the converter to hit harder and the higher the launch rpm the lessor amount of freewheel in the converter causing the car to leave softer and just drive away . with all that said I would just try the launch rpm to start with and you may not have to change anything else . Att. playing with the bars and not knowing what you are doing could cause you problems as the car is set and goes straight it may change that if you start turning things and you don't want the car pushing one way or the other with the wheels up ! Just my two cents I know you don't have any use for me but I'm only trying to help you here okay good luck and I hope your enjoying the car Steve.
     
  18. oktire

    oktire oktire

    Messages:
    105
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Location:
    minnesota
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    No! The lower the front of the bar moves the canter of gravity forward making the front lighter. as you raise the front of the bar you move your axis further back giving you more weight on the front.
     
  19. Mopar Miller

    Mopar Miller Active Member

    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    3
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2014
    Location:
    Utah
    Local Time:
    9:11 PM
    What I did on my dart was installing homemade front end limiters. You simply chain the front end so that the car has to lift the front end without the help of the front shocks. Just a couple inches of travel is all you need. I pulled a 6' wheel stand at the Mopars on the strip race in Vegas. Then I spent several hours fixing the oil pan! Now I have a 4 link with a B1 motor.
    The wheel stands where fun!!

    In cars with not enough power, I would suggest the 10/90 shocks and 6 cylinder torsion bars. This is old school stuff from an old racer.
     
  20. Dana

    Dana FABO Vendor FABO Vendor

    Messages:
    1,056
    Likes Received:
    615
    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2011
    Location:
    Youngstown
    Local Time:
    10:11 PM
    X2 This has been my experience also bob
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalize content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.