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    Like the title says, I bought the car thinking it was a demon. Went up to check it out and realized the vin was not nearly as long as a US vin for these cars would look like. After speaking with the owner I he tells me the car was imported from Mexico years back by his brother and then he restored it here. So here I am trying to see if anyone has had any experience with these so called valiant super bees?

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      Looks like you got a very cool ride, to include manual console setup.

      Yes what you were told sounds legitimate.

      Both Duster and Demon equivalent depending on year, we’re sold under the same Dodge Valient Super Bee name. I have seen 2 Duster equivalents in person, but only have seen the Demon equivalent in pics.

      Yours has dual scoops and hood mounted Dixco tach, which I interested was factory option.

      1970s Mexican Valiant Super Bee
      The story behind the Super Bee Valiant is that it was built as Chrysler Mexico’s early-’70s, cost-effective alternative to the brand new generation of Challengers and ‘Cudas that were introduced in 1970. Different from Dodge’s “Super Bee” here on the home soil, the Mexican variant was based on Chrysler’s A-body platform. From ’70-72, the Super Bee Valiant shared the same front and rear with the Duster, but from ’73-’75, the Valiant received the Dodge Dart’s front-end while maintaining the Duster’s rear. The Valiant would be returned to the Duster/Valiant body for the 1976 production year.

      Between 1970 and ’74, the Super Bee Valiant was offered with Chrysler’s 318 V8, producing 270bhp, and for ’76, the Super Bee would be offered with a 300-horse version of Chrysler’s 360 V8. Horsepower ratings from Mexico, at that time, were higher than they were here in the U. S., but that’s because Mexico’s anti-pollution laws were not nearly as strict as they were here in America.
       
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      Years ago this 72 valiant super bee was in the area

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      • Miguel Echeverria

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        Im sure the demon variant did not exist in Mexico correct? As the demon badges were added by the previous owner so I’m assuming the correct badging (atleast for the doors) would of said super bee. And as for fender badges I’ve looked around and all the pictures and info I’ve been able to find points to having what looks to be an engine CID badge but that’s about it.
         
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        Agreed, Super Bee was the Badging used, but the rest of the car was in effect what we call a Demon. I edited my original post, it now provides some additional insight as to the fact depending on year it had a Duster or Dart front clip, therefore what we know as a Demon. Also the tail panel, did also match the Demon tail panel on years paired with the Dart front end.
         
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        Right on, now I wonder why some one would convert it in to a demon tribute. Because I know it’s going to be near impossible to find the correct super bee badges. I guess it’s staying a demon for now until my next trip to Mexico to hunt them down.
         
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        In Southern California. Just in a north west suburb of Los Angeles

        this car had Valiant across front of hood.

        no demon badges
         
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        Yah agree it will not be easy to find those.

        Here is a cool thread about a Super Bee with lots of cool info and pics. You will note there is a pic which includes a Super Bee Demon equivalent, if not mistaken a 1972, which would make perfect sense because the 1972 American Demon had come out with it’s design changes, so easy for basically the same model to also be offered in Mexico with little to no effort in making changes.

        1971 Valiant Super Bee (Mexico) Proyect
         
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          Might of been the same one then, the one I saw had the hood mounted tach painted black. The hood was missing the valiant script badge though I remeber because you would see where the badge used to sit it was very faded.
           
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          Thank you for the link. Spent the whole night looking through it and navigating the forum trying to find any more posts with anything related to these super bees and from what I see info on these is pretty limited.
           
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          WELCOME !!!! and ALWAYS remember, 318willrun gave you your first "Like" :)
           
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            Welcome, sweet ride! I've seen only one before, and it was fully documented, very cool car.
             
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              :welcome: aboard!
               
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              • Miguel Echeverria

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                Thank you hope it’s not the last either. Seems like everyone in this forum is very nice. This is my first mopar, I’ve only owned mustangs and still have a few and I’ve been on mustang forums and people there are very sarcastic and unwilling to help or even hold a conversation. So thank you for that.
                 
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                • Miguel Echeverria

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                  Im working on getting as much documentation as I can on this as possible. Hopefully the old owner finds all the old paper work he’s had for it.
                   
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                      Ford, Pshhh! Same superiority complex crowd exists in the Mopar B/E body community but they are not allowed on this forum! WE ARE A-BODIES AND PROUD!
                       
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                      • Miguel Echeverria

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                        Why is it like that though? The more known body styles get the worst people behind them.
                         
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                        even if the car can’t it’s the best place to shop mopar part west of the Mississippi. And they’ll be lots of similar cars to check out.
                        There’s a silver 72? Mexican dart that been coming regularly.

                        some past Fall Fling Mexican Mopars:

                        The red Super Bee is next to it. Same owner or friends

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                        • Miguel Echeverria

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                          Count me in then, got the date saved. I really appreciate you letting me know about it.
                           
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                          Not sure if anyone can tell from the dash picture I posted but it appears that the dash came with a voltmeter from factory instead of the ammeter. sadly the whole cluster is shot and the voltmeter gauge was replaced with a poorly ghetto rigged aftermarket gauge. I also noticed the spedo is not a 240 kph gauge it only goes up to 160. makes me wonder if it was an actual superbee or just a regular valiant duster And the circuit that runs the cluster is different too to accommodate the volt meter gauge wiring. the more i dive in to fixing the issues this car has the more I find out about it.
                           
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                          • missing linc

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                            That sounds pretty normal, the more you look at fixing it, the more you find that needs to be fixed.
                             
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                            I know but it saddens me to think that some of these things I need to fix I might not be able to find replacement parts for :(
                             
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