1. diymirage

    diymirage HP@idle > hondaHP@redline

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    I've noticed this comes up quite a bit, someone is selling something on the forum and requests to be paid through PayPal with funds marked as "friends and family"
    Then, when the seller turns out to be a scammer the buyer has no recourse
    Of course, this is just chicken coming home to roost for the buyer going along and lying about it save a buck

    So I was thinking, obviously we can not impose morality on our members, but perhaps we could make it a "rule" that you are not allowed to ask buyers (or sellers, for that matter) to lie, and Mark it as "family and friends"

    I don't know how we would impose this, but it could be as simple as adding a warning to the 9 second screen we all read before posting a for sale or want add

    Just thinking out loud here, trying to make this a better place for all of us
     
  2. halifaxhops

    halifaxhops It's going to get stupid around here! FABO Gold Member

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    I always ask for a dollar as goods and services so I can print the shipping out and the rest as friends to save everyone the fees. Guess I am guilty!
     
  3. diymirage

    diymirage HP@idle > hondaHP@redline

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    well the way i see it, im paying for a service they are providing, just seems right
    on top of that, 3 % , thats less then 5 dollars on 90% of all purchases here (im guessing)
     
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    • halifaxhops

      halifaxhops It's going to get stupid around here! FABO Gold Member

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      I hear you. I have had some WTF questions also. I do it on the expensive stuff over 300 myself. There are some scammers out there for sure. I personally never had a issue with any of the FXXO sites personally. Usually a good group of guys.
       
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      If I am buying from a member I don't know I will add a few dollars to the total cost to cover the fee, even if the seller asks me to mark it friends and family.

      There are a lot of people who I send as friends and family because they are friends so I an really not lying. I bought a car recently and sent it friends and family, Because the seller is someone I dealt with before and i knew he is good on the deal and some could call it a friendship.


      So no problem, right
       
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      • RAT ROD AL

        RAT ROD AL I know just enough to be dangerous FABO Gold Member

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        I agree that paypal is very convenient and don't mind paying the fee at all. even if I'm the seller. But aren't we all friends and family here ? LOL (well mostly)
         
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        • Treblig

          Treblig Well-Known Member

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          Yes, Pay Pal "RULES"!!!!:usflag::rofl:
           
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          • hemi71x

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            Well, let me ad my 2 cents to this topic.
            When i get a serious buyer for some of my brake and suspension parts, and it comes time to give them a dollar quote for parts and the shipping, i figure everything out for them if they want to pay me thru Pay Pal, Family or Friends, or Goods and Services.
            I leave it up to them, how they want to put the payment into my account.
            Be honest with you, the great majority pay me Family or Friends.
            Guess i have a decent enough reputation over the internet for buyers to save some money.
             
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            • 318willrun

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              i'll probably get burned sometime..... I've bought a lot through this site using "friends and family". Never a bad experience ….. yet! LOL.... I rarely get feedback, but I've done a lot more than my 10 shown. :)
               
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              • diymirage

                diymirage HP@idle > hondaHP@redline

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                maybe im overthinking it

                and i understand a lot of us "know" one another (of the six people in this conversation, i recognize all of em, and i even know some actual names)
                so, this isnt so much about protecting us from us, but to protect us from those who are not...established members
                 
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                • fratzog lover

                  fratzog lover Well-Known Member

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                  As long as the persons last name isn't Figgat, you have a 99% chance of an honest transaction!
                   
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                  • 4spdragtop

                    4spdragtop CONGRATS NORTH AMERICA! FABO Gold Member

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                    I give the buyer the choice...we have had more threads on this topic....its called "BUYERS INSURANCE" PAYPAL even states it....
                     
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                    • Ottmundr

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                      I avoid that and fork over the 3% paypal tax for Piece of Mind.

                       
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                      • 4spdragtop

                        4spdragtop CONGRATS NORTH AMERICA! FABO Gold Member

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                        So pay the 3% extra maybe, so I dont have to "lie" about it....jesus h christ already over this...wheres the fuckin horse we can beat again....and again....AND AGAIN
                         
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                        • Treblig

                          Treblig Well-Known Member

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                          I think muscles in one of the horse's leg flinched so they started beating him again!!!:rofl:
                           
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                          • 4spdragtop

                            4spdragtop CONGRATS NORTH AMERICA! FABO Gold Member

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                            LOL, yeah rigamortis aint set in yet so beat the ever lovin piss out of it....
                             
                          • Joeychgo

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                            There is no way to enforce it.
                             
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                            • diymirage

                              diymirage HP@idle > hondaHP@redline

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                              yeah, i figured it would be hard to inforce, but not to inform, and that might prevent some of this
                               
                            • jos51700

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                              Caveat emptor.
                              Done deal.
                               
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                              • 4spdragtop

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                                A fool and his/her money soon parted....
                                 
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                                    • halifaxhops

                                      halifaxhops It's going to get stupid around here! FABO Gold Member

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                                      • Jadaharabi

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                                        I include the 3% in my price.

                                        I won't even consider buying from someone wanting a 4% paypal fee. They are just price gouging.
                                         
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                                        • hemi71x

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                                          Ya, i'm sure you could do it that way, but i'm one of the people that keep shipping, packaging, payment, fees totally separate from the part price.
                                          That my business practice, and preference, in selling items on the internet.
                                          So what's wrong with that?
                                          Then why would you consider that "price gouging"?
                                          Guess your gonna be missing out on parts from time to time, but if that's your preference, so be it, nobody is going to loose any sleep over it.
                                           
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