Phoenix Systems Reverse Brake Bleeder

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  1. my5thmopar

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    Anybody have one of these reverse brake bleeders. I have a Mityvac bleeder but, I've never been impressed with it. I'm not looking for other methods or how too. Just wondering if anyone uses the Phoenix or a reverse bleeder on a regular basis. Thanks
     
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    Yeah, I've got one. Can't say it doesn't work, but I wasn't overly impressed either.

    But, its always good to have options. I've also got a Motive Industries Power Bleeder that I tend to use most often.
     
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    I think the only true way to pressure bleed the brakes is positive pressure from the M/C side. I think vacuum pulls too hard at the the threads, pulling air from outside the system.
     
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      You will get a little air from around the bleeder threads but that is outside of where the bleeders seat. Not an issue .
       
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        You sir, have stolen my life's philosophy!!!! And I've said this very thing previously
         
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        I have a Phoenix kit, you can use it also to pressurize from the MC out to the brakes caliper.
         
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        • my5thmopar

          my5thmopar Life Long MOPAR Owner FABO Gold Member

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          I looked at the Motive one too. I’ll have to read more about it.
           
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          The biggest problem I've had with the Motive style pressure bleeders is the amount of adapters you need. There are so many different M/C out there that I'd have a couple hundred in the pressure bleeder and adapters. The next thing what do you do with the fluid in the tank, once you break the seal on a bottle of brake fluid its a ticking time bomb of moisture grabbing liquid.
           
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          As with all pressure bleeders Amoco used to sell a pressure pot decades ago. Same MO with that. You need a whole box of adapters to make it work on different mastrs.
           
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          I've found it cheaper to have the wife help pump the brakes while I bleed them. She plays on her phone and just has to move her foot once in a while. NBD
           
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            I have been using brake bleader screws for years crack them open, pump a few times and close. Only way to go for me. Around 14 a set.
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            I use the Mity Vac for initial bleed/fluid flush, then have the wife pedal bleed.
            Yes, you will see some air bubbles pulled in around the thread with the vacuum, at least that's been my experience for the last 30 years I've used it.
            I've also made my own reverse pressure bleeder using a small garden sprayer. Just removed the sprayer nozzle and used a piece of tubing over the fitting to the bleeder.
             
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            anyone have luck with the 'ol gravity bleed? Crack open the farthest, catch the drips and keep the M/C filled for over an hour? DOT 5 is silicon based and is not hygroscopic, wont absorb water. Not compatible with any other DOT fluid but is a good alternative after a complete brake flush or replacement for older cars that sit.
             
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              I am a 1 man show. Have done it that way for years.
               
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              So an even better value that you can use on anything is a one way inline valve. I found these while trying to find a way to bleed the brakes on my harley by myself. The only downside is they don't really seal up until you have the line in front of the valve full of liquid. So doing a flush its fine but doing a caliper or line change you still need to build pressure up first.

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