i have no idea why they said not to port. i would think a W2 headed engine would see some gains but i'm no expert.
I’m sure there would be a gain but as mentioned above, gain vs cost may not be effective. Also, just how good is the manifold in question? That may be something there?
[QUOTE foot speed controller or router speed controller in pictures.[/QUOTE] is the top one a harbor freight item?
is the top one a harbor freight item?[/QUOTE] This is all harbor freight stuff. The picture of my stuff is from eBay.
As referenced in the port matching thread here, engine masters did a back-to-back-to- back test of three intakes, super Victors on a 550hp small Chevy. Stone stock ootb, port matched, and Wilson ported. Ootb 546hp Port matched 554hp Wilson ported 564hp. Ootb manifold was $375, Wilson was $1000, so $625 for 18hp. For a milder motor I would expect milder gains. Edit: forgot to mention, ALL gains were above 5300-5400. Most gain (more than at peak) was at 7000. 2nd edit: tried a $100 tapered 1 1/2 spacer on the Wilson, made another six hp.
All part of the baby steps of getting more out of a combo. Then hence the phrase, speed costs, how fast do you want to go? I see very little gains on a plane ol’street engine that people just bolt together. Worthwhile? Per individual I guess. While the gains on a serious engine will be more, it is getting pricey to get there.
Who did you call? For 900 bucks you should get 20-30 hp. There isn’t an out of the box intake that doesn’t need work. Some more than others, and the Victor W2 needs work.
Nothing wrong with them. I have a Victor and a SD in the shop. They both take some work. I haven’t seen any intake manifold that won’t improve by a pretty good margin when ported. Just so there is no confusion, I’m talking about cast manifolds. A sheet metal intake shouldn’t need any work. If it does, send it back.
Probably the best intake I’ve ever seen out of the box was a B1 big block intake. I don’t think I had over an hour spent on it.
I lost my butt on a set of BB Edelbrock knock off heads. The heads weren’t too bad, but the Edelbrock intake was terrible. I forget the part number. I told the guy 400 bucks to clean the intake up, but I had 800 in it to get it where it should have been. Had so much core shift I almost had to weld it, and the runners were reverse tapered. I no longer quote porting prices on manifolds I haven’t worked on before or have at least looked at. I look at it first.
I’m sorry I guess I was wrong. I went back and looked at my B1 pictures and I did have more than an hour in it. Not a crazy amount of time though for an intake that’s flows over 400cfm bolted on a set of heads.
Porting and intake properly is actually MORE work than porting 8 intake ports and I agree--A big number might show up on the dyno but ET won't really change. Youre intake is not really undersized for your cubes IMO--Just clean it up, radius any real sharp stuff and bolt it back on. Go to Princess Auto and grab a die grinder AIR/Electric that you like and go to town. I hate porting intakes and guys around here charge $1200+. J.Rob
I remember this topic bringing up whether some were flowing the intake 'flange down/backwards' or pushing through it. As in regards to the Intake by itself. I've done that before, Its not the correct way though. You can see 340's cfm backwards from a vic 340 ootb ...then see it's really choking it to 245cfm bolted on a 270+cfm port. Gasket match, blend it to the runner, blend the flange/plenum...and 'leave the rest if you can't test'
The above ,That's not a method that makes it all perfect and equal, not saying it is...just once you start playing with the runner walls/dividers effecting their lengths..its anywhere then. It becomes a reengineering/redesign.