QA1 K and Gen III

New Hemi Engine Swaps

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    Cazbah362 Well-Known Member

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    Ron, I had a /6 71 K at my disposal, and I was trying to go with Schumackers /6 to Gen III mounts. At the time it was not revealed Schumacker was going out of business, and I had the mounts on order for about 3 months? When I finally got fed up with waiting, I tried to find a suitable matching K, and the prices are crazy, we are gouging each other in this hobby. So instead of paying huge prices for a K, I bought the QA1 and simply went with the TTI mounts. Yes, I could have fabricated, but I did not.....
     
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    Looking great that interior redone looks awesome.
     
  3. Ronald C.

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    I hear ya man. I’m always amazed at some of the prices I see on this stuff.
    I wonder though, if the QA1 shifts the position of the Hemi. Looks like you have pretty good clearance for the alternator. I’m faced with (best I can tell at this point) notching the pinch weld. Tempted to try and fit it in 1st, but I’m equally concerned even if it does fit, will I be able to swap the alternator out later....

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  4. Cazbah362

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    Sorry for my tangent, but yes you need to notch the pinch weld with the QA1 and factory K. I took mine to about an 1/8 inch from frame and put a quick bead with my Mig.

    I did an E-body with a factory K and needed same body modification as well.

    ALSO - put a hole in the lower frame for the bolt to come/slide out or shorten the lower bolt. Makes for easier maintenance in the future. Top bolt comes out without issue.

    Hope this answers the question - if not, let me know.

    Here are some pictures.

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  5. Ronald C.

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    That’s actually perfect! Thank you sir!
     
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    Did you use EFI MS GoldBox?
     
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    Yes I did, I have done two or three of these with the Gold Box. Only issues I have are:
    1. Usually the MAP is backwards and will not let the car idle - simple as swapping wires
    2. No support for transmissions
    3. Have to use a drive by cable set up. They sell an adapter for LS type throttle bodies, them bought the matching size E-bay TB, about a $120 expense for everything, but works nicely

    I am using the Holley Terminator X on an LS car I have built and see they have support for DBW and such. They have now come out with a system for Gen III's, and I would think of going that route if I did another one.
     
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    PM sent
     
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    I too put a 6.1 in a 72 Demon and had to create some relief space for alternator as well. I used a Hemi Denny K frame. Total game changer. I would still be trying to fit the thing in without it.
     
  10. Ronald C.

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    Where are the recent pictures????
     
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    What alternator are you guys using? I've done two A bodies with stock K's and haven't had to notch. Do the tube k's set the engine lower?
     
  12. Ronald C.

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    I’m running stock V8 K member, 2016 Challenger Alternator.
     
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    408, I would bet you are using the truck stuff, I used and it looks like Rod used the car stuff
     
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    Nice job. Looks fantastic. I’m waiting for my 5.7 heads to go so I can upgrade to the 6.4.
     
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    On my build thread.
    I had to step away from it for a bit and actually focus on my real job. Gotta make hay when the sun shines don’t ya know! I should be back to it in a couple of weeks.
     
  16. 408 swinger

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    Negative, Ghost Rider. Car.
     
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    Well then, whats your secret
     
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    No secrets. Just car front accessory drive. I do know that the car VVT has two different amp alternators. The 160 amp is the smaller of the two.
     
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    Kinda hard to see. No notching of the rail. It is dang close though.
     
  20. Ronald C.

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    And you are running the smaller of the two alternators? The 160 amp? I think that’s what I have....
     
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    Correct. The smaller one.
     
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