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Get a 1/2” fine thread nut and weld it to the pan. End of problem. I would flatten the outside part some, to give a bigger sealing area. Actually i would likely make something in my lathe. I really dislike the oversize plugs. In many years i have been forced to use less than a handful.
 

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If the insert is too long sticking into the pan, it will restrict oil from draining... :mad: :BangHead:

Get a 1/2” fine thread nut and weld it to the pan. End of problem. I would flatten the outside part some, to give a bigger sealing area. Actually i would likely make something in my lathe. I really dislike the oversize plugs. In many years i have been forced to use less than a handful.

Dorman 65241 Dorman Transmission Pan Drain Plugs | Summit Racing

I have this for the transmission plan 1/2 - 20 but sticks up quite a bit.
 

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I wouldnt use that dorman piece.ever. Even a piece of 1/4” plate drilled and tapped, then welded on is better. Wouldnt have to remove pan.
 

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Outside is flat. Inside I don't think I could tack it with Oxy-acet. Might be able to get someone to do it with another method.

Some oil gets caught below the drain. it just the way it is. Whether the sheet metal is 0.0240" as it is, or there is a 1/2" deep nut or insert won't make it that much worse.

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Another option if I'm taking it off is to use the pan that came with that engine.
It was pretty rusty and the shop brazed the one hole. I'm not highly confindent it won't develop more holes but should last a winter if needed.

The people who use timeserts rave about how good they are so I was looking to learn if that was a realistic option. It would be a huge timesaver for me now.
 

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Outside is flat. Inside I don't think I could tack it with Oxy-acet. Might be able to get someone to do it with another method.

Some oil gets caught below the drain. it just the way it is. Whether the sheet metal is 0.0240" as it is, or there is a 1/2" deep nut or insert won't make it that much worse.

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Another option if I'm taking it off is to use the pan that came with that engine.
It was pretty rusty and the shop brazed the one hole. I'm not highly confindent it won't develop more holes but should last a winter if needed.

The people who use timeserts rave about how good they are so I was looking to learn if that was a realistic option. It would be a huge timesaver for me now.
If you wanted to use an insert, put epoxy on it before installing. Shouldnt ever leak.
 

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@Tooljunkie @krazykuda
Outside is flat. Inside I don't think I could tack it with Oxy-acet. Might be able to get someone to do it with another method.

Some oil gets caught below the drain. it just the way it is. Whether the sheet metal is 0.0240" as it is, or there is a 1/2" deep nut or insert won't make it that much worse.

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Another option if I'm taking it off is to use the pan that came with that engine.
It was pretty rusty and the shop brazed the one hole. I'm not highly confindent it won't develop more holes but should last a winter if needed.

The people who use timeserts rave about how good they are so I was looking to learn if that was a realistic option. It would be a huge timesaver for me now.


Inserts are good in blind holes, not always on through holes/thin holes....
 

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If you wanted to use an insert, put epoxy on it before installing. Shouldnt ever leak.
Good idea!
The question is whether this particular one will bite at all. The ones I like to use, AVK, would work if they made them in this size.
One nice thing about Timesert's is the countersinking creates a flat sealing surface for the washer.
 

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No car stuff here.
Two hours of shagging fly balls and batting practice.
This is an open practice. The league has eight teams and anyone on a roster can come to this practice usually 15 shows up.
Practice is Tuesday-Thursday-Sunday morning. They league play Monday night.
They also have an optional Wednesday morning league which I don't do yet.
Even when league is done in a couple weeks, they'll still have practice until December.
Then they move indoors to the indoor field and play or practice all winter. They take their softball serious. Keeps a lot of them going.
Some dumbass showed up today and told everyone he tested posted for covid that morning but felt good enough to come to practice and since we were outside, he'd keep his distance.
A couple guys chewed his ass and told him to leave which he did.
 

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Car stuff here...Got the intake manifold of the Caddy (PIA), after I changed all the spark plugs ( PIA ). Changing knock sensors and starter motor now. Will have it back together before Dinner....
 

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No car stuff here.
Two hours of shagging fly balls and batting practice.
This is an open practice. The league has eight teams and anyone on a roster can come to this practice usually 15 shows up.
Practice is Tuesday-Thursday-Sunday morning. They league play Monday night.
They also have an optional Wednesday morning league which I don't do yet.
Even when league is done in a couple weeks, they'll still have practice until December.
Then they move indoors to the indoor field and play or practice all winter. They take their softball serious. Keeps a lot of them going.
Some dumbass showed up today and told everyone he tested posted for covid that morning but felt good enough to come to practice and since we were outside, he'd keep his distance.
A couple guys chewed his ass and told him to leave which he did.
In like manner no car stuff today just packing parts in trailer for next load down South. Holy Smokes I got a bunch of crap. I was loading 2x6-14ft on the trailer thinking to myself how I used to just cut lumber up and burn it when I moved last time. Not this time, I am shipping every scrap! Be smart Craig on the running thing. I would argue you are not 100% yet, and I know for a fact once the whistle blows you will give 110%. It is healing from outside in giving the illusion it is healed when in reality it is still easy to tear again. Ask me how I know! I did get my fancy State Champion buckle today so it now adorns one of my rigs! Woo Hoo!

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Evening all. Spent the day providing burial rites to a fallen Congresswoman. Gotta meet several Congressmen albeit briefly, but the best part was working these two clowns alongside our counterparts from the Old Guard from Arlington who performed the 21 gun salute

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Too much day- job crap Today...... endless parade of meetings that just drained my soul...

Heading out to get on the mower and cut some grass
 

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In like manner no car stuff today just packing parts in trailer for next load down South. Holy Smokes I got a bunch of crap. I was loading 2x6-14ft on the trailer thinking to myself how I used to just cut lumber up and burn it when I moved last time. Not this time, I am shipping every scrap! Be smart Craig on the running thing. I would argue you are not 100% yet, and I know for a fact once the whistle blows you will give 110%. It is healing from outside in giving the illusion it is healed when in reality it is still easy to tear again. Ask me how I know! I did get my fancy State Champion buckle today so it now adorns one of my rigs! Woo Hoo!

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Cost of one of them boards will get you at least a 12 of Yuengling!
 

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My big accomplishment today was taking the trash out. Lol. I did put out a LOT of cardboard. Break is over. Guess I should get back to work :(
 

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Evening all. Spent the day providing burial rites to a fallen Congresswoman. Gotta meet several Congressmen albeit briefly, but the best part was working these two clowns alongside our counterparts from the Old Guard from Arlington who performed the 21 gun salute

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So you were horsing around today.... :rolleyes:
 

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If you wanted to use an insert, put epoxy on it before installing. Shouldnt ever leak.
I'm leaning toward weld a nut inside or similar.

it might make more sense in the short run to use the rusty pan.
I wish he had brazed a patch on it rather than just filled the hole.

Waddya all think?
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H'm. if that is a plan, then maybe I have nothing to loose by trying a double overside or thripple oversize before removing that pan.
 

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I'm leaning toward weld a nut inside or similar.

it might make more sense in the short run to use the rusty pan.
I wish he had brazed a patch on it rather than just filled the hole.

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I put a drain plug in a auto trans pan. Welded a nut on the inside and drilled a hole through it. Worked great. I would braze it if I had the torch.
 

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Crummy day here too ! Went to start the duster, no start , changed all the ballast resistors , chrome box, still nothing , put an old coil on it ( jerry rigged ) not the same ends . Off a ford ...lol , But she fired up .
 

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Long day.
Legs are giving up alltogether. Stairs are almost impossible. Worst now is turning over at night. Its easier to get out of bed to turn over. I did roughly 1 mile walk uphill and downhill.
Im done, want to go home..
 

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