Tell us all why we should be vaccinated

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    This is my one reason for getting vaccinated. I did so even if it gave your uncle Lee a 1% chance of living. But then again that's just me, thinking about someone other than me.. Here is my Uncle Lee.



    Leo "Lee" G. Marklein Obituary - Visitation & Funeral Information
     
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      At 87 it sound like uncle Lee had a great life. Sorry to see him pass away but old, and young die everyday. Life just doesn’t seem fair at times. I wish my Dad would have lived till 87 but Alzheimer’s took him from me way before that. Mom passed away from Brest cancer that turned to bone cancer years later. A death I wouldn’t wish on an enemy. When your mother squeezes your hand with all her strength and says johnnie let me go, please let me go. Explaining its in Gods hands just doesn’t hit home.
       
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        i have been a staunch defender of life on both extremes, in utero and in twilight

        but seeing my mother in law suffer from dementia, and seeing my wife try to deal with it, has opened me a little to the position of those advocating for euthanasia (dont get me wrong, im still against it, but i can kinda sorta see where they are coming from now)
         
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            What hospice does, in my opinion, is not euthanasia. They make them comfortable to the point that they do not consume water and that is what they die from.
             
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              if i had to sum up the difference between regular doctors and hospice, i would say one of them shoots for quantity of life, while hospice shoots for quality of life

              when i say "euthanasia" i mean doctor killing his patient

              i dont not believe for one minute that aligns with what hospice does

              (im fact, im a big hospice fan, and i had no idea the PBR was even talking about hospice)
               
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              I was referring to your situation and now I think we are aligned in our understand of euthanasia.
               
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              • RustyRatRod

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                I agree with this 100%. Whenever we give to our local Christian thrift store, which is three to five times a year, we never accept a receipt for a tax write off. When you GIVE something, you're supposed to give it, free and clear. Getting something back for giving something is not giving something.
                 
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                  Agree. You don't help, or give to buy acceptance. Or recognition.
                   
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                    If someone were to say "I got the vaccine out of consideration for other people and not myself" would you consider that bragging? Would it rub you in the wrong way a little? Don't mean to put you on the spot. Just trying to see where people are at. You don't have to answer. I respect that.
                     
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                    i know this wasnt aimed me, but i would dislike that person...because they are displaying a "holier then thou" attitude (and a lack of medical knowledge)

                    of course, when they do say something like that, i explain that is the reason im carrying aswell, and that usually ends the conversation


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                        What if it was your local priest or other spiritual leader who said it? Sometimes who says it makes a difference. I get that.
                         
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                        I will state that I didn't get the shot(s) and the reason was all me, I already had Covid, before the shot(s) were available. SO my side affects I still have were unavoidable. The jury is still out on weather I will ever take it.
                         
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                        clearly you do not know my pastor...he actually made the national news for his/our stance on the masks and our church grew during this scamdemic because we refused to have our first amendment rights trampled on
                        so we stayed open and worshipped as we normally do

                        but i see your point, and i can admit that chances things
                        if a person has a responsibility towards other people and believes not getting the vaccine would constitute a neglect of that responsibility then he would be right...but then i wouldnt expect him to be bragging about it
                         
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                        This is strictly a guess, but I'm going to say the amount of people that actually got the shots to protect other people is say oh I don't know .0000001%.
                         
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                          I respect that. But is the statement " I got the vaccine out of consideration for other people and not myself" on it's own have to be considered bragging? Is there any chance the person could be speaking with sincerity? Maybe they have a loved one they are in close contact with. For the sake of argument I'll assume they are misguided in thinking the vaccine works.
                           
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                            .sure, it may not be bragging

                            But unless we are having a regular conversation, if they offer it up, the probably are bragging
                             
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                            If someone offers up that they got a vaccine to protect others.... maybe they just have pride in the fact that they care about other people?
                             
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                              Other members talk about how they help others....I never consider it to be bragging!!
                               
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                              Agreed. And when it comes down to it... if you simply ask "if you had a 1% chance of saving someone else's life would you take this?" That will tell you exactly how much they care about anyone but themselves.
                               
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                              You guys going on about helping someone by taking an experimental drug are full of crap. If you want to help someone in a guaranteed way go donate blood every 54 days. Or maybe volunteer time at a hospital or food bank. That way you helped out for sure rather than possibly helping someone.
                               
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                                Maybe we're just not afraid of a little ole shot?
                                 
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                                  It isn't about being afraid of it, it is just seen as not necessary, I have not seen a compelling argument/reason in favor of it.


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                                    :rofl:
                                     
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