DionR
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Hurricane-Powered Dakota Blows Down The 9-Second E.T. Barrier
9's in a Dakota is impressive with what is pretty much a stock inline six. Hellcat swapped cars should be faster but the Dakota is pretty comparable to the MMX Dart from the 2021 Drag Week that ran a best of 10.061 and 135.21 mph on different runs and is rated at 157 more hp.
Dodge handed out several Cat3 crate motors and 8HP75's to some YouTubers for a Roadkill Nights grudge match. I started watching the channel that did the Dakota when they were planning to put it in a Duster but they changed directions and put it in a Dakota. I kind of lost track at that point and didn't watch everything but what I did see makes me think it would have been a pretty tough swap into an A-Body.
At one point the Gen 2 Garage made it sound like the PCM is locked so the 9.988 run was without a bunch of tuning. Tom Bailey got one of the motors and put it in a late Ram based Ramcharger like thing for Sick 66 and he thought they were closer to 800 HP, but 9.988 at about 3200# race weight is more like 635 hp or so. They did spray it with about 50 hp of nitrous in like 2nd to 4th so it wasn't NA. But it also had such a tight converter that she couldn't build boost on the line without pushing through. So there is more in it even without nitrous. Before the spray, she had run 10.222 (fastest) to 10.510 (slowest) and the Roadkill Nights winner (Torque N Tungsten) was at Sick Week in their D150 and ran 10.118 to 10.241 as well. Mile per hour for the Dakota was 126-130 with a outlier of 124 mph while the D150 ran 129-131.
Based on what I saw, not sure one of these would fit easily in a car. One of the turbo outlets appear to be pointed right at the master cylinder even if you get the motor low. Speaking of getting the motor low, it will need a custom oil pan or a coil over conversion. And the motor looks really tall so even if the crank is in a similar location as the LA or /6, I wouldn't be surprised if it stuck up above the fenders. But just a guess on my part. Seems like everything I see so far is in a truck of some type. Oh, and it is 1" longer and like 75# lighter than a 5.7/6.4 and probably 250# lighter than a HC.
I have heard of issues with them, but sounds like they are mostly related to the Standard Output and not the High Output motor. There are some pretty significant differences between the SO and HO motors, things like an EGR port and plumbing on the SO that the HO doesn't have, so different head, turbos, etc. plus bigger crank journals and forged parts on the HO. Much more than just a tune and a couple of parts.
Over the last couple of days I have watch several YT videos and I can't say I like the exhaust note at part throttle yet. At full song it founds fine, but driving the thing around makes it sound not great (to me). Pretty impressed with the potential but not sure I can get over the sound. There are plenty of inline 6 motors that sound cool so maybe it is just an exhaust configuration thing. The Dakota in the article is dual straight piped off the turbos so maybe a merge and a muffle would change it.
There was a plenty of hate awhile ago when these came out. Kind of curious if seeing one run 9's has changed any opinions.
9's in a Dakota is impressive with what is pretty much a stock inline six. Hellcat swapped cars should be faster but the Dakota is pretty comparable to the MMX Dart from the 2021 Drag Week that ran a best of 10.061 and 135.21 mph on different runs and is rated at 157 more hp.
Dodge handed out several Cat3 crate motors and 8HP75's to some YouTubers for a Roadkill Nights grudge match. I started watching the channel that did the Dakota when they were planning to put it in a Duster but they changed directions and put it in a Dakota. I kind of lost track at that point and didn't watch everything but what I did see makes me think it would have been a pretty tough swap into an A-Body.
At one point the Gen 2 Garage made it sound like the PCM is locked so the 9.988 run was without a bunch of tuning. Tom Bailey got one of the motors and put it in a late Ram based Ramcharger like thing for Sick 66 and he thought they were closer to 800 HP, but 9.988 at about 3200# race weight is more like 635 hp or so. They did spray it with about 50 hp of nitrous in like 2nd to 4th so it wasn't NA. But it also had such a tight converter that she couldn't build boost on the line without pushing through. So there is more in it even without nitrous. Before the spray, she had run 10.222 (fastest) to 10.510 (slowest) and the Roadkill Nights winner (Torque N Tungsten) was at Sick Week in their D150 and ran 10.118 to 10.241 as well. Mile per hour for the Dakota was 126-130 with a outlier of 124 mph while the D150 ran 129-131.
Based on what I saw, not sure one of these would fit easily in a car. One of the turbo outlets appear to be pointed right at the master cylinder even if you get the motor low. Speaking of getting the motor low, it will need a custom oil pan or a coil over conversion. And the motor looks really tall so even if the crank is in a similar location as the LA or /6, I wouldn't be surprised if it stuck up above the fenders. But just a guess on my part. Seems like everything I see so far is in a truck of some type. Oh, and it is 1" longer and like 75# lighter than a 5.7/6.4 and probably 250# lighter than a HC.
I have heard of issues with them, but sounds like they are mostly related to the Standard Output and not the High Output motor. There are some pretty significant differences between the SO and HO motors, things like an EGR port and plumbing on the SO that the HO doesn't have, so different head, turbos, etc. plus bigger crank journals and forged parts on the HO. Much more than just a tune and a couple of parts.
Over the last couple of days I have watch several YT videos and I can't say I like the exhaust note at part throttle yet. At full song it founds fine, but driving the thing around makes it sound not great (to me). Pretty impressed with the potential but not sure I can get over the sound. There are plenty of inline 6 motors that sound cool so maybe it is just an exhaust configuration thing. The Dakota in the article is dual straight piped off the turbos so maybe a merge and a muffle would change it.
There was a plenty of hate awhile ago when these came out. Kind of curious if seeing one run 9's has changed any opinions.
