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    cannucky The Guy With No Birthday

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    has anybody got experience mounting a hitch on a second gen barracuda ? What kind of tongue weight do you think it would handle ? I bought a house 4500km away and want to move the car there this summer, but Uhaul wants over $3k for a truck for my parts and building supplies and a tow dolly to pull the car . I can rent a 10ft enclosed trailer from them for 1/3 of that 1 way which would be perfect if I can pull it with the car . Power and Torque are not an issue at all lol!
     
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    No way I would pull a enclosed loaded down trailer with any A body...
     
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      What kind of total weight are you talking? And what "is" the A body? Is this a base /6--318 car or does it have heavy suspension AKA 340/383/ 440? That would make a HUGE difference

      I have heard LOTS of horror stories about Uhaul.....poorly maintained, etc. If you do this I would manage your time at low traffic periods and drive WAY below speed, IE prolly no more than 50 mph.

      I had a 2" receiver on my 70 RR, they welded tabs on the rear frame rails and bolted the receiver under that. Nice and neat, tucked up against the tank. I towed "it's own weight" from San Diego to the N end of Idaho when I got out of the Navy, May 74.
       
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        I b'lieve he's talking E body..............
         
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        I put a hitch on my dart to pull a small utility trailer and my motorcycle trailer, it works great. I don't think It would be safe pulling anything bigger than that.
         
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        Most of the hitches made for cars years ago were suspended from the bumper. a 67-69 has a puny bumper. I wouldn't do it.
         
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        The 67 Barracuda owners manual has a diagram on how to install a hitch and limits the total towed weight to 2000 lbs.


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        thats rarely the problem.. the problem is steering and stopping the damn trailer.. :)

        a 10' enclosed trailer seems like it can get up there in weight pretty easy. better get all the weights before you decide to trailer anything with the car.
         
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        Alright , 69 fastback , 520hp/tq both ,xhd springs , disc brakes , load weight will be a 318 / 727 plus 300lbs +/- of stuff ,looking to rent a 4x8 or 5x10 I'll put the engine over the trailer axel and 50/50 the rest .I know we used to tow a 16 ft glasstron boat with a valiant back in the day so it's not a bad as some make it out .
         
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        thanks I'll have to look for that diagram .
         
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        if they will rent a small open utility trailer for a 1 way trip I would certainly go with that to save drag .
         
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        Heck man I would not rent. Look around for a used trailer on CL or even buy one of the little "do it yourself" home assembled flatbeds
         
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          You might look at boat trailers too. Add some floor to it.
          I used to tow my 1800 pound Sportcraft with a short 4 cylinder '88 caravan.

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          I would buy a used truck and trailer, sell them when you are done.

          Or plan B:
          I also had a co-worker buy a U-haul box truck off them for $2200, he uses it to move his kids off to college from WV to Utah, after a few trips it has paid for itself in what the rental fees would have been.
           
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            Most hitches back in the day were bolted through the trunk floor with plates forming kind of a sandwich, and had a U shaped support hoop which bolted to the face of the bumper. I made my own hitch years ago where the support hoop was more V shaped and bolted to the side of the bumper brackets. I can't remember if I bolted the back to the trunk floor, or made a crossmember and attached it to the frame.
             
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            I pulled the largest single axle uhaul (5x8?) from OH to FL with my 318 67 Coronet in 1988.

            I used a clamp on bumper hitch.

            No problems.

            The heavier uhauls have inertia activated trailer brakes.
             
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            thanks guys I have till august to decide what I want to do , I am driving the car to moparfest again anyway and am planning on it staying at the new place after so the question became 1) load a truck and tow the car behind it . 2) tow a trailer behind the car or 3 just drive the car itself and procrastinate hauling everything else until I am ready to make a big move .I would just unload it all from here but the motor is matching #s for the car so I do need to keep it .I have been keeping my eye open for a trailer to buy but I need to figure out what I can actually pull with the car and the used ones I have seen so far have been real pricey .
             
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            Depends on the drive. If not crossing the Canadian Rockies, and mostly flat-land, I wouldn't worry about power. Even the slant six w/ tranny was used in Dodge trucks and a coworker used to pull a 2-horse trailer with one, even over a 4000 ft pass. I think a bigger thing is that the car weigh more than the load to avoid fish-tailing. I have a 1978 Hi-Lo camping trailer which weighs ~2800 lb. Its main feature was that it lowers for towing and was advertised "tow w/ a 6 cylinder car". I tow it with our V-6 minivan, which weighs ~4000 lb. Going over the Sierras (7000 ft pass), I could get up I-80 at 70 mph, but why risk the transmission? I usually set to "L" (2nd gear?) and go 45 mph in the truck lane up the steepest grades. Everyone on the Chrysler minivan forums say "don't tow, will ruin transmission", but can't explain how towing on flat-land is any different than driving uphill w/ no load? The engine and transmission only know the load, not whether you are towing. If a hot day, don't run the AC, even consider running the heater w/ the windows open.

            Downhill is scarier, with the trailer trying to push you down the hill. Approach hills carefully so you won't have to brake in the turn and risk jack-knifing. My trailer has electric brakes, which helps. I would consider buying a 4'x8' folding flat-bed trailer, like from Northern Tools. They are cheap and light. Sell it when you arrive for probably less cost than a U-haul rental. The U-haul enclosed trailers look heavy and not terribly spacious. You can make small walls from 2"x4", then rope nets to secure the load, which will save weight. If you run short, strap a canvas luggage bag to your car's roof. I did similar moving from CA to GA, but bought an 18' car hauler trailer (perhaps too big), which we towed with our 1965 C-body. Everything was great until rear-ended at night in AZ by an uninsured driver. The highway patrolman had an attitude (didn't like CA tag?). He didn't cite the other driver and suggested it was our fault for not driving fast enough on "his highway". Not one of Sheriff Joe's guys, but similar attitude.

            Re attaching the trailer hitch, you might do like I did on my C-body. I bought a "universal hitch" at K-mart (?). The width was adjustable. I attached the sides to the rear frame rails. They are thin and slid up between the frame inner side and the gas tank. It came w/ wedged shims, which helped because the frame rails aren't exactly parallel. It also came w/ a wire to fish the bolts thru the hollow frame. An A-body is very similar, so "should work". Only downside is it has a 1.25" square receiver, rather than the more standard 2" sq, but rated 3500 lb (Class II, I recall), which still matched the trailer weight.
             
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              thanks Bill thats the best /most info I've gotten far , I know back in the day {70s} we used to tow boats and trailers with everything , I have to cross the rockies but the car just has so much tq and hp it just doesn't care , up hill down hill the past 5 trips I've taken in it just goes up the hill 2500-300o rpm 70-80 mph like it has no load , the hitch info was what I was after not whether I should or not , crap everyone called me nuts for driving a 45 yr old car 5000km each way cross country , now I've done it 5 times and nobody bats an eye ,unfortunately the things I need to move some are big , some are heavy but I'm sure I will be well under 2000lbs , a 318 some front end parts , maybe a 727 if I don't trade it here for a 904 , 6 windows 7'x3.5' and a deep jacuzzi bathroom tub plus some tools , most of the tools will be carried in the car it's the tub and windows that got me looking at an enclosed trailer.everything else stays here for the next three years of my work contract .
               
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              If frame rails/rear sheet metal is good, why not?
              I have seen some pretty shabby hitches/mounting. Most people are fearless when it comes to trailering. Just because you can go 70 mph doesent mean you should. 4500 km’s,where you relocating to?
               
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              cannucky The Guy With No Birthday

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              I just redid the back half of the frame rails , new trunk floor , rear cross member , valance etc it's all new amd steel . I have to stay here till at least Dec 2020 but I bought a 6bd victorian built in 1880 on the Ottawa river in a little village called Portage Du Fort , I'm going to air bnb it for this summer after I take possession in June . I figure I'll hit Moparfest again and leave the car there afterward . I bought most of the antique furniture with it so in June I'm flying in and closing off half the top floor and almost half the main floor , doing a quick bathroom reno and some new flooring so I can rent it as a 3 bd summer home /cottage then when I go out in August I'll spend an extra week + redoing the other 3 rooms upstairs plus converting the rest of the main floor into a mangers suite so someone can run it as a full on B&B next year for me .I plan on building on to the garage enough space for a second bay plus work and an apt for me to live in , I don't need to rattle around in a big old house I just need room for my toys , tools and a little man cave eh lol !
               
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                cannucky The Guy With No Birthday

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                Oh and I wasn't saying I was going to tow at 70 through the Rockies lol I was just saying the car goes up and down the mountains like it was on flat ground it just goes , no lugging or load just the same rpm as flat ground .
                 
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                Seems like you have a plan. Ever consider shipping the stuff and just driving the car. Another option,just throwing it out there.
                 
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                Yeah I'm considering a few options and may just drive the car this year and haul the stuff in a couple of years when I make the big move , I won't be building the new garage for a year or two so I don't need the tub and windows until then , most of the parts are saleable spares it would be nice to move the #s 318 and a couple of other definite keeper parts with the car but hey who knows , Shipping it all would require crating charges and a hefty bill considering the mileage and it's nowhere near a rail line so it would have to be trucked , ouch .

                PS plus an empty garage here means I could build another car before I move-more toys more toys lol !
                 
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                Back in 70's I pulled 20' Coachman camper with my 67 GTS to Panama City, Fl from Tuscaloosa and back plus other camping trips. I already had a 440 in it then so had no problem.
                 
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