You and I both. Flow sheets would be awesome. Dyno runs also.Did you ever make any passes with that head. Curious how it ran in a car
That would be cool.
You and I both. Flow sheets would be awesome. Dyno runs also.Did you ever make any passes with that head. Curious how it ran in a car
Exactly. High flow through small ports is nice to a degree.The problem I see is guys think this head will make power with a W-2. It won't. They didn't move the valves. They didn't raise the port. It's essentially a copy of an OE had that does have some improvements.
RAMM ROD and YELLA BELLY ROSE... chill dudes. You both are a wealth of knowledge. Lets just see how good the TF heads are when they get out to the public and stop calling each other hypocrits please and thanks. Or cage have a cage match and settle it like mens LOL
I know that and I never said you did.
Now now, don’t loose your hat..... again.... LOL!
Now now, don’t insult RAMM through me! Be nice.
You never said that to begin with. What you said is below in quotes.
Don’t start putting words into my mouth or assume. I tell you straight out no problem you know that. Calm down, don’t blow an artery!
Looking at what you wrote, above, it leaves holes in, “Information!”
Now after reading what you followed up with, a 2.100 valve, it finishes off what IMO you should have added in, in the first place.
Considering the head comes with a 2.02 to start with and your lack of information only leads one to think that the valve first used was a 2.02, then you went to a 2.08.
First of all, I never said what I thought of the new TF offerings because I've never seen or touched a set. YR can tell from a picture that it won't equal or exceed his W2/W5's which flow 355 BTW. But precedes that with "flow isn't everything" Now i'm not confused by this but some would be. If I were releasing a new product I would be pissed that I didn't hire a guy like YR to design it because apparently it's all wrong.
Wealth of knowledge? Dunno about that, but I do know I actually contribute with REAL information in REAL build threads. I've yet to see ANYTHING substantial/factual or relevant from YR. Heck I'd settle for mildly interesting at this point. J.Rob
You and I both. Flow sheets would be awesome. Dyno runs also.
That would be cool.
Once again, relax, sit back and relax.Not really. I just point out what someone else already admitted to. I'm not bothered at all. Actually, I have no idea why you're in this either. Haven't seen your bona fides yet. That means post some pictures of heads in a seat and guide machine and you're golden.
I see this thread has gone awry in a hurry, so all I have to offer is some additional info.They are posted around the internet. Somewhere around 280 @ 1/2 inch, 290@ .600 and 300 @ 700 if memory serves.
Trick flow calls it a “ street port” so i dont know that i would call it fully cnc ported.
190cc head
They did with the big block heads, so the final production version will likely have lots of room for pushrods.I do hope they slot the push rods holes...
Is that vane actually curved over, or just an illusion?THE NEW TRICK FLOW HEAD!
See you there!
It is actually curved that hard.Is that vane actually curved over, or just an illusion?
I see this thread has gone awry in a hurry, so all I have to offer is some additional info.
First, fully CNC ported refers to the intake and exhaust ports, as well as the combustion chambers being entirely machined with a CNC mill. It does not mean max ported. Even an RPM head could be called CNC ported because of the port entry being CNC gasket matched. They are definitely not fully CNC ported. The Trick Flow big block 240 heads are fully CNC ported, but the 270s are fully CNC ported bigger.
The flow chart sent by TF, says 293 at 600 and 301 at 700. For 190 ccs and a 2.02 valve, that's respectable for a stock replacement head. Exhaust is about 240.
From past experience, Trick Flow won't even sell a bare head until about a year after they are released. They want to build a reputation for the head before they offer them to guys who will modify their work. They don't care if someone makes them better. It's the hacks that they are afraid will ruin the heads reputation before it has been given a real chance.
Is that vane actually curved over, or just an illusion?
YR has nothing to prove, Ramm has nothing to prove. or do they? maybe a build off with the new unproven Trick Flow small block head. say 420 cubes!
Seems I've posted about my W-5 junk many times, because many said you can't get a 2.100 valve in one without moving the guides. But you can. It would be better with a 2.08 though, unless you use a 1.500 exhaust valve.
The problem I see is guys think this head will make power with a W-2. Who ever said it would? It won't. They didn't move the valves.Why would they? So every person that wants to swap heads as a weekend project has to modify or get new pistons? They didn't raise the port. Again so everyone that wants to swap heads as a weekend project has to modify or get a new intake manifold? It's essentially a copy of an OE had that does have some improvements.
The only BYB's I can think of can't get a ring to seal. That's an issue for you. Nah, I already told you--ripped out that Gapless section from my catalog--cylinders seal just like they used to.
I'll say it again...we were a two man shop. I'm a one man shop that me and my buddy did all this after hours and weekends.The juice wasn't worth the squeeze. That's where you miscalculated big time. 7-8 publications and valuable contacts-Very, very worth it. I was already working more hours than I wanted, and I wasn't willing to give up any more of my off time for what I consider magazine masturbation. It was a time thing. Of course, I could have worked weekends and stuff, and stayed in the shop until 2 AM like I did in my 20's and 30's but I said piss on that. Or, I could have set aside customer work to get into a contest I put very little value on.
Figure it out
Is that vane actually curved over, or just an illusion?