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J Glenn
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A related question: I've seen double-lug patterned (4" and 4.5" on the same wheel). Anybody used those?
Treblig
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I used 4 1/2" X 4 3/4" dual bolt pattern wheels on my Barracuda
pishta
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Cragar used to sell double pattern and used oval washers. Were they really 4+4.5 or were they 4.5+4.75? 5 on 4 in a 15 is off the shelf at wheel vintiques for their Rallies. I'd say safer as you can get way more speed rated tires in 15 than 14 nowadays.
The only way to get modern tire technology, is to step up to 17inch or larger wheels. 15 inch tires are reserved anymore for truck tires. 5 on 4 inch pattern is safe. Nothing wrong with the wheels....
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I ran a pair of Wheel Vintiques Rallys on the front of my 68 Barracuda on the KH hubs 5 on 4.0. The wheels were 15x 8 with sticky compound 245/50-15s. Cornered pretty good but burned the tires off in about 6weeks of mostly city driving. Hyup, those were good times. I still got the wheels; 5.25bs IIRC
Sizes yes, BUT not good rubber compound. Not modern technology.
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It’s ok. I just wanted the convenience of better and more choices for 1” tires over 14” without having to loose my Kelsey Hayes discs and matching drums. Street driving and occasional drag racing is all I do wit my car,, some long road trips. 17’s ride like bricks, imo. Experiences?,, wife’s Honda, son in laws camaro,daughters 18’s on her 2014 Charger, etc,etc,etc. Thanks.
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Are there plenty? The only ones I can think of are the super-low end trim levels of econo cars.
Can you define "decent?" If you're looking at 60 Series stuff that we would run on our cars we're severely limited. There are replicas of old tires from Coker which IIRC perform comparably to the originals (translation: "drive at your own risk")...then you have some ancient designs that have lingered for decades (BFG Radial T/A) and some ok all-season "performance" (Hankook Ventus H101, Mickey Thompson Sportsman S/T).
There are some great performance tires in the 15" range but they're almost all 50 series and shorter, targeted at 90s era import stuff.
The only other one that I have come across is the Avon CR6ZZ which aren't readily available in the States...and while likely street legal, they're 80 treadwear so they're sure not going to last too long. I'd sure give them a try if Tirerack or any local place carried them.
http://www.avonmotorsport.com/historic/historic/cr6zz
Must be a California thing. But then,who cares. I’ve seen and run, cooper,big and many others.255/60r15,,275/60r15,,, 235,245,. The list goes on. In 65,70,75 series tires from Michelin, Goodyear, cooper, big, and many others. Hi and lesser quality. Just because you chose to run 17’s which are hard riding bricks,,,imo don’t act like there’s no 15” choices... LMFAO!!!
Small bolt Rallys on my Swinger. The center hub hole on the wheel is larger than the spindle hub on the car. I haven't had issues though. I have never heard of 4 and 4 1/2" dual pattern wheels. 4 1/2- 4 3/4" were common.
Here are someAre there plenty? The only ones I can think of are the super-low end trim levels of econo cars.
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Can you define "decent?" If you're looking at 60 Series stuff that we would run on our cars we're severely limited. There are replicas of old tires from Coker which IIRC perform comparably to the originals (translation: "drive at your own risk")...then you have some ancient designs that have lingered for decades (BFG Radial T/A) and some ok all-season "performance" (Hankook Ventus H101, Mickey Thompson Sportsman S/T).
There are some great performance tires in the 15" range but they're almost all 50 series and shorter, targeted at 90s era import stuff.
The only other one that I have come across is the Avon CR6ZZ which aren't readily available in the States...and while likely street legal, they're 80 treadwear so they're sure not going to last too long. I'd sure give them a try if Tirerack or any local place carried them.
CR6ZZ | Avon Motorsport
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175/60R15 High Performance Tires — CARiD.com
There are other reasons for using 17 inch wheels, they out perform the 15 in stuff. Why do you think 15 inch are not used anymore for performance cars?
Nobody cares bout pushin 17’s. That wasn’t even a subject.
I was just stating to OP to save there money and get wheels that you can put real tires on. IMO of course... Unless you just want the old look...there is a reason you see the BFG's on old cars. AND its not because they are any good. They are the only performance oriented tire you can buy in the 15 and 14 inch sizes we need. And they are crap tires. Hockey pucks...old rubber compound technology. Pushin 17'S HUH?
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J Glenn
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I'm trying to imagine 17" rims with my dog dish hubcaps. That'd be comical.
The whole thread was pointless to begin with. What's unsafe about a 5x4" bolt pattern? Nothing. No, it's not as strong as the 5x4.5" pattern with larger studs, but plenty modern cars still run 4 lug wheel patterns with studs on par with the 7/16" size on the SBP. Using a 15" rim with a 5x4" pattern isn't really any different than using a 14" rim with 5x4" pattern, so I'm not sure why the question even comes up.
The only reason to get rid of the 5x4" pattern is to have more rim, tire, and brake options available, and if you just want to run 15's available with the SBP you pretty much eliminate all of those reasons entirely.
diymirage
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I think you just described all 17 inch rims on classic cars...dog dishes or not
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