Who makes good oil pans for the SBM?

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    I'm getting close to needing an oil pan for my R3W7 project. I've spent some time looking around and haven't found anyone that can/will make a pan. This pan will more or less need to be custom, and probably aluminum.

    I've found some custom fabbers, but they're not set up to make SBM pans.

    Anyone know of a good shop that is up to speed on these? I'd prefer not to make my own...
     
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        Not Stefs. Straight garbage
         
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          Thanks everyone. I have talked to Charlie's in the past, I did not get the impression they were what I wanted though I can't recall why. Their website is poor....they show a bunch of 4 cylinder stuff under SB Mopar. Might talk to them again, though.

          I've heard Stef's is bad. As for Kevco, they look to be steel pans that are made from 'stock' beginnings. I'm not against that but at present aluminum is preferred.
           
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          Can you fit a rear sump pan on whatever this is going in? There was Jeff at Billet Fabrication too. I’ve seen his work. It’s top notch, but I think he may be on the slow side.
           
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            Yes, it will be an A body. But I probably will use a different than stock k member and also an external pickup. So the pan will need to be fairly different.
             
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            Right, but still a rear sump right??? I would never use a box style pan again unless it was a dry sump.
             
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              Yes, it will be a rear sump by and large. It also needs to be a reasonably shallow sump....I can't handle something that get recontoured by every speed bump.
               
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                Canton Racing Products?
                 
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                  Check with autoxcuda, he had a pan speced for his needs I believe.
                   
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                    YR...you've got me curious...what do you mean by box pan and why didn't you like it?
                     
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                    I'm not sure Charlie's is still in business. He retired, and the phone number no worky.
                     
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                      A full length box with no sump. You can’t baffle one of them well enough to control the oil using it as a wet sump. The Milodon was better than the Stef’s by a long way, but it still has issues.

                      With a box pan and a full length 1 inch kick out and a scraper, I still had to kill the engine in the lights to keep from nicking a bearing. They look wonderful on the dyno, but in practice they suck.

                      I guess if you are of the mind to screw with it, you could make it an external wet sump and baffle the crap out of the pickup, hoping to keep some oil around it.

                      It’s kinda funny, especially if you ain’t writing the checks to lean this crap that STEF’s was constantly bitching about running 7 quarts in that pan. They wanted 5 and NO MORE. With 5 in the pan, it would start killing adjusters. Of course, they couldn’t grasp how the bearings didn’t go first, but they say I had it oiling it would take out an adjuster first.

                      I got to where I could feel it in the car...it was almost like you were lifting off the throttle. Part of that was the rocker arm bushings were starting to grab the shafts too.

                      That pan and pickup were so poorly designed it was criminal. I made it useable with extra baffles and 2 extra quarts of oil, but the power on the dyno never translated to the time slip with that junker on it.

                      The guy who bought the pan from me had to sign a note agreeing that I had told him the pan was junk, would break parts and didn’t make any more power than a good rear sump pan, and the idiot bought it anyway. I guess for a hundred bucks he thought he was pulling a Diamond out of a goats ass. Rather he tugged on a turd.
                       
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                      • Krooser

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                        Try Champ Pans....
                         
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                          A friend of mine made a really nice one for his car... I think it was in the CNC machine for 20 hours
                           
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                            His pan was developed with himself and Milodon.
                            They are the road racing pans. Shallow-ish but wide with trap door baffling inside. They are available for the 330 or the 360. Summit racing carries them.
                             
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                                    A friend of mine here in Winnipeg designed it and had it CNC machined...I think it was in the CNC for a couple of days. The thing likely cost a couple of grand in just machining costs...but if you are building a $30,000 plus small block that pushes over 1500hp do you really want to cheap out on the oiling...
                                     
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                                      Thanks again everyone.

                                      That CNC'd pan is plenty nice....but I gotta say it looks heavy(?).
                                       
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                                      I could get the weight
                                       
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                                      i would use duct tape and carboard before i put a milidon pan back on
                                       
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