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  1. Duggie

    Duggie Well-Known Member

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    There I was, 1,500 miles into our maiden voyage down and back up the Pacific Coast Highway #s 101 and 1 in our 64 Dart /6 vert when the (original?) starter died. Opened the saved forum pages and found one that read 'starter'. Did the internet search at NAPA and Auto Zone and found one for a '92 Dakota. Next morning we made a 30 minute stop at the Florence Oregon Auto Zone, and we were back on the road.

    The wife now thinks I'm a god. I can milk this for a month!!:lol: IMG_3375.JPG
     
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    • oldkimmer

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      Awesome. Kim
       
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      mopowers Well-Known Member

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      Sometimes it pays off to have the good ol slant 6, huh? Nice job!
       
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      • oldkimmer

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        Easy least starter R&R for sure. Kim
         
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        • Dartsun

          Dartsun Mopar Dude

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          Have fun should be nice weekend for a drive.
           
        • Duggie

          Duggie Well-Known Member

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          I love this 6! Purrs like a kitten. So fricking easy to work it on, it silly.
           
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          • 67Dart273

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            AND NOW another annoying story from the old days.

            After the Navy I sold auto parts for about 15 years. One day an old guy came in, threw this Japanese starter on the counter, and said, "can you send this in to get it rebuilt?"

            I said "yes, but why don't I check that we do or don't have one?"

            "Oh you don't, I'm sure"

            "Ok, what is it off of?"

            "Right out front that old Datsun pickup." (I've forgotten, one of the old rounded fender Datsun pickups, a 66?)

            "I said OK, but tell me this.......how do you start it?"

            "It has a crank"

            AND THEN I KNEW..........all the early Jap pickups had a long crank which you used to winch the spare tire down, and to operate the screw jack. AND the early models COULD BE CRANKED!!!!

             
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            • Duggie

              Duggie Well-Known Member

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              And now the rest of the story. I ignored this starter for the trip because; 1 - it still worked, and 2 - we have Auto Club extended towing, so what the heck? When the starter died, I said, "No biggie. I'll pull it out and flip over the solenoid contact, just like when I was a kid with my old 64 Impala, and we'll keep on keeping on." Pulled the starter, opened the factory service manual and went, "Wait a second! This 12 volt lug is 30 degrees to the interior contact. I can't flip this over!" Proof again ignorance is not always bliss.:realcrazy:
               
            • toolmanmike

              toolmanmike FABO MODERATOR Staff Member FABO Gold Member

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              I believe you can do that with the Dakota starter you bought. LOL great story and adventure
               
            • 67Dart273

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              Not only that but there is a wire, a PITA wire, coming out of the solenoid internally. You must desolder it on some starters to get it apart and re-solder to get it back together, and THEY ARE EASY to break. I used to be able to tear down a Delco with my eyes closed. I've always disliked working on Mopar starters
               
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              • pishta

                pishta I know I'm right....

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                My starter in my 71 Honda AN600 went out and no one had one, I had to get it rebuilt so while it was getting rebuilt, I still drove it to school for a week! I just made sure I had a flat road to push start it. 4 stroke 2 cyl motorcycle motor, electric fuel pump Keihin VV slide carb...Choke it, push it forward and dump the clutch, fired every time. I got so good at it I could do it in reverse just by pushing the car backwards with my left leg while sitting in the seat! It weighed all but ~1120 lbs wet. I could nose in and pick up the back end and swing it into a parallel parking spot. Pic of one....I had the 10" Mini mag rims on mine, probably worth more than the car now.
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                • Duggie

                  Duggie Well-Known Member

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                  You're bringing back memories of all the VWs I've driven with a broken clutch pedal cable. Man those were a pain to replace! Oh to be young and stupid one more time.
                  :steering:
                   
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                  • Princess Valiant

                    Princess Valiant Duster specialist FABO Gold Member

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                    I wish my 68 dart had a hand crank, I would use it just because that is so cool.
                     
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                    • 67Dart273

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                      If it's a stick, you can always rope start it......





                      At least one of these (more people) would have far easier to just push start LOL

                       
                    • famous bob

                      famous bob mopar misfit

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                      You probly dont know the correct way to use a hand crank , they can hurt you bad on a backfire/kickback , ur thumb should always be on the same side as ur fingers, if it kicks back , it will just tear the handle out of ur hand, If u dont do it that way , u can be changed for life , my dad had his outer finger joints knocked down for life , he learned the hard way !
                       
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                      • BobW

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                        Sounds like my "Sportster knee"! Get the magneto in the wrong position and either hyper-extend or kickback!
                         
                      • Tooljunkie

                        Tooljunkie King of cobble/master of the broken bolt FABO Gold Member

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                        Would like a crank for my ‘51 fargo. Think i will start asking around.
                         
                      • cosgig

                        cosgig MoBro Inc. FABO Gold Member

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                        Your godlike powers should not be minimized here! Great job!
                         
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                        • halfafish

                          halfafish Damn those rabbits, and their holes! FABO Gold Member

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                          For sure I'm late for this party, but had you known, I have a milk crate full of starters sitting in the shop. You would have been doing me a favor taking one of them and getting it out of my hair.
                           
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                          • bcschief

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                            Hey I had one of those in yellow neat little car. The only company that made tires for it was Goodyear.
                             
                          • 67Dart273

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                            ........and many YouTube videos show people incorrectly "pushing" on a crank!!
                             
                          • H22A4

                            H22A4 Does anyone read this?

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                            So true. Never put your thumb on the other side of the crank. Keep your thumb on the same side as your fingers to protect against potential kickback.
                             
                          • pishta

                            pishta I know I'm right....

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                            All I could find were Michelin XZX? Must have been a regional thing. Id buy one again, my friends mom had one and they put 12's on it.
                             
                          • mopar head

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                            The old Renaults had a hand crank jack handle too, only problem was the 6" crank was way to small for leverage. Cranked my ass off for hour before I finally got it started.
                            The French copy nobody, and nobody copies the French:D
                             
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                            • Dana67Dart

                              Dana67Dart Like a fine wine, only getting better with age! FABO Gold Member

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                              I used to push start my 63 Econoline Van by myself on occasion.
                               
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