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Every ****-head kid with a coffee canned ricer needs to hear that so they know what POWER sounds like
 
The only thing sweeter is the sound of a big radial like a P-47 or an AD-1... cool vid!
 
I could stand all day,stare with my mouth wide open at a Spitfire. I think most WW2 fighters were (are) beautiful pieces of machinery. Hot Rods of the air baby.
 
My friend's dad owns two warbirds. A T-6 Texan / SNJ / Harvard trainer and a Chance Vought F4U-7 Corsair. Got to sit in the cockpit of the Corsair in the hanger ... made me feel like a kid watching Baa Baa Blacksheep.
 
I wish I could hear what the old Chrysler V-16 Hemi aircraft engine sounded like. Those things were huge!
 
I wish I could hear what the old Chrysler V-16 Hemi aircraft engine sounded like. Those things were huge!


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What did come from testing the aircraft engine was just another Chrysler accomplishment that went by unheralded but was nevertheless noted later. The inverted V-16 was conservatively rated at 2,500 horsepower, and Chrysler has always been known for under rating their engines.

The hemispherical chamber, as the name implies, is a portion of the sphere. And here you can see the arch shape of the sphere itself. With this we can bring the spark plug into the center of the chamber which is an excellent position for the spark plug. The same shape over in this view allows us to put the valves in a position where when they open, like this inlet valve, it has excellent breathing of the air past the valve seat. This combination of the excellent breathing, of the inlet and the exhaust makes for a very high volumetric efficiency of the engine. — Willem Weertman on the 426 Hemi
For testing, a P-47 Thunderbolt was selected. Introduced in 1943, the P-47 was the largest and heaviest single seater in the Air Force inventory at the time. It was powered by a huge 2,800 cubic inch radial engine that developed 2,300 horsepower. It gave the 40 foot wing span plane a top speed of 439 miles an hour at 15,000 feet.

Some modifications were necessary to accommodate the long V-16. When done, the slimmed down nose actually helped reduce the drag produced by the big round radial. Preliminary testing showed promise. Gingerly the big fighter was coaxed slowly into higher altitudes and higher speeds. Finally the go ahead was given for an all out test. At 15,000 feet, the huge plane, under the Chrysler V-16's power, broke the 500 mile an hour barrier. No one thought it was possible for a piston engine to achieve that speed in level flight.

Thanks to accurate radar timing, it is beyond doubt how powerful that engine truly was. Flat out, it pulled the huge P-47 along at 504 miles an hour. Conventional wisdom at that time said that the V-16 was making at least 3,000 horsepower, and likely closer to 3,500!

Just to be sure, the test P-47 went out the next day with a different test pilot and again level at 15,000 feet, went through the 500 mile an hour mark. Hand shakes and elation went all around. However, the engine never went into production. The important thing to keep in mind about this engine is that it was a Hemi headed, push rod valve activated type. It survived the war, and now is on display at the Walter P. Chrysler Museum in Auburn Hills, Michigan.
 
Yea that sounded real nice and I especially love the sound of the Rolls Royce Merlin V12, Spitfire and P51, at full song. Did you know the Merlin was an overhead cam, supercharged and water injected engine.

But I gotto say this, you should of warned me that an old Square Head (german) was going to start talking cuss I almost pissed all over my computer. You see up until 6 months ago I used to work for Siemens and got my fillm of the old boy attitude. Rant over.

Terry
 
I could stand all day,stare with my mouth wide open at a Spitfire. I think most WW2 fighters were (are) beautiful pieces of machinery. Hot Rods of the air baby.
Exactly. The Spitfire has to be one of the most beautiful designs ever to fly. I have to confess a love of the German designs. Even though many were not pretty, they were freaking viscious. Great performance, heavier armament than any allied fighter, and some serious performance tech like nitrous oxide and methanol injection.

There is a company in Germany building new Fw190s. There is a company out west, in Washington State I believe, building new Me262s. Here is a vid of one:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7620890100890480&q=me%2B262&pr=goog-sl

A friend of mine's father was a gunner in a B-24 and told me about the first time they encountered Me262s over Germany. He said it was terrifying because their guns could not even track the 262s and the 262's 4 30MM cannons could literally saw a heavy bomber in half. They felt like sitting ducks. It's a good thing they didn't build very many of them. He still has a shell fragment from a FW190 in his hip.
 
Here is a not particulary exciting video of the first test flight of one of the new FW190s. It just makes some low speed, wheels down passes but it is nice to see that someone is actually making such amazingly acurate new warbirds. And one can be yours for only $550,000!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzMSIpOR9lU
 
I am into vintage planes as well as cars. Everybody always talks about how awesome P-51s sound and they are right, but listen to this BF109G. It has it's original supercharged Daimler-Benz DB605 engine. It has a nice choppy idle and just listen to that supercharger on the medium speed passes. Awesome sounding machine.

http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/bb238/2shelbys/?action=view&current=Bf109Red7.flv

If you ever have the chance to get to California you must visit the Air Museum in Palm Springs. It is vast; dedicated soley to WW2 aviation.
You name its there, Allied, European and Pacific theaters and every two hours or so they roll one of those things out on the tarmac(the museum is located on the east side of the Palm Springs airport) fire it up and do several fly bys. I spent 4 hours at that place. It is run by volunteers, WW2 vets, who served and their insight is nothing short of hair raising. Simply amazing..if your into that kind of thing and I am. How could not be?
 
If you ever have the chance to get to California you must visit the Air Museum in Palm Springs. It is vast; dedicated soley to WW2 aviation.
You name its there, Allied, European and Pacific theaters and every two hours or so they roll one of those things out on the tarmac(the museum is located on the east side of the Palm Springs airport) fire it up and do several fly bys. I spent 4 hours at that place. It is run by volunteers, WW2 vets, who served and their insight is nothing short of hair raising. Simply amazing..if your into that kind of thing and I am. How could not be?
Sounds great. A really cool place that I am close to is the Smithsonian's Silver Hill facility. That is where they keep everything awaiting restoration. There is some WILD stuff there like the only surviving GO-229. It was a flying wing bomber with almost no radar signature and a top speed 100MPH higher than the ME 262, just below the sound barrier. It was on the production line when Patton's Third Army overran the factory. A team from the Lockheed Skunkworks actually went there and examined the plane when they were designing the B-2. Look familiar?

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There was a Mopar magazine (can't remember which one) that told a story of some guys that took an old Hemi powered Nascar racer to the Goodwood Festival of Speed. After the car made a lap or two the writer saw an old man just staring at the car with a tear kinda rolling down his cheek. When he approached the old gentleman he said the last time he had heard anything like that was when he piloted his Spitfire during the Battle of Britain. I don't think we'll ever see ANY piston engines again like we saw in WWII or the 60s:sad:
 
My first experience with big radials was many moons ago out on the tarmac watching Lockheed Constellations taxiing around. Man, you can feel the exhaust pulses from those big corncobs down in your gut.

My father was a Flight Engineer with TWA. He told a story about having a rough running engine on a Connie during one flight. Some mechanics came out to the ramp after they landed and the three of them were running up the #1 engine after the passengers deplaned. A bunch of stewardesses left the plane (this was before jetways) and walked toward the terminal. Unfortunately, one of them walked right into the prop. He said it was a real nasty thing to see. You gotta wonder about not hearing a cranked up radial and steering clear of it.
 
My uncle flew a F4F during WWII. I never met him as he never made it back.

I have a soft spot for WWII fighters and bombers myself.... I have a pic of me in one many (30) years ago at a plane junkyard. I just sat in it and thought what brave men these were and tried to imagine what was going through their heads.
 
What the --- was that? Oh well, it`s gone now. You mods are good. There`s a small airport in Chesapeake Va. here that hosts a vintage air show. They have a lot of WWII era planes present. It is surreal to see a B-17 flying overhead. We had a chance to go through one called Sentimental Journey. There was a P-51 Mustang there with a Rolls Royce engine and it was active for most of the show. For $150.00 you could take a short ride in it(about 5 minutes). My girlfriend and I both wanted to take a ride but we figured $300.00 was a lot of money for 10 minutes of entertainment ,and we`d have to go one at a time so we opted out. Now I wish we would have, that was an opportunity of a lifetime.
 
What the --- was that? Oh well, it`s gone now. You mods are good. There`s a small airport in Chesapeake Va. here that hosts a vintage air show. They have a lot of WWII era planes present. It is surreal to see a B-17 flying overhead. We had a chance to go through one called Sentimental Journey. There was a P-51 Mustang there with a Rolls Royce engine and it was active for most of the show. For $150.00 you could take a short ride in it(about 5 minutes). My girlfriend and I both wanted to take a ride but we figured $300.00 was a lot of money for 10 minutes of entertainment ,and we`d have to go one at a time so we opted out. Now I wish we would have, that was an opportunity of a lifetime.
A couple of years ago we had just arrived in Ocean City (Md) and were out on the beach. I looked down the beach and saw a twin engine plane coming toward us in the distance. It had twin vertical tails. Hmmmmm...don't see that much these days. As it got closer I realized it was a B-25 Mitchell!! And no freaking camera!! That is how I found out that there had been a small airshow at the O.C. Airport that day. CRAP.
 
To me there is nothing, absolutely nothing that sounds better than a P51 at speed.
I love the P-51 and its Merlin but I still like the BF109 more. Pretty much the same thing plus a whistling supercharger.
 
2Shelbys, there is a Me262 displayed in a glass front building at the Willow Grove Naval Air Station along Rt.611,north of Philly. I sure would love to stop in and look at it,but never had a chance.

John
 
2Shelbys, there is a Me262 displayed in a glass front building at the Willow Grove Naval Air Station along Rt.611,north of Philly. I sure would love to stop in and look at it,but never had a chance.

John
I have not been there but I know that it is one of the rare two-seat trainers. I think it is the only surviving Me262B-1a. One of 15 aircraft modified under contract by Blohm and Voss for use as a dual-control trainer. I am glad to hear it is protected from the weather now. It sat outside forever.
 
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