70DusterDev
Well-Known Member
So I've been reading up on all the old posts of which 5 spds you guys have been talking about to put into the A body cars. The Dokata trany and the T5.
Well on the way home from work I was thinking about the T5 because they started out in CJ7's which I have rebuild a handful of. So I called Novak-Adapters and I asked "The T5 was a borg-warner transmission in the CJs. Then they came out with the World Class for the mustangs etc. Did they change the front bolt pattern where the bellhousing bolts to it?" He answers "No I dont think they did." So I said "Well does that mean the CJ7 bellhousing will bolt to the ford T5?" ... "Ugghh I've never had anyone ask that before but I dont see why it wouldnt. The input bearing retainer may be different?"
I know for a fact that the AMC and Mopar bell housings are the same because I have used Mopar AX15's on many v8 and /6 CJ engines.
After getting off the phone with them I called up a guy I use to work for who had a T5WC with 50k on it from a wrecked 86 mustang and picked it up for $50. Took it back to the shop and pulled the bellhousing off it frantically and sure enough.... they are the same pattern!! I had a CJ T5 bell under the bench from an old trans. The input bearing retainer is infact bigger by about 1/4 of an inch so I'm going to have my buddy machine it for me.
This means we can bolt our small block mopars to a nice 5spd trany for pretty cheap since the CJ T5's are pretty easy to come by being that they came in almost every 6 cylinder CJ from 82/83 up to 86 that was a 5spd.
The Ford bell is a little bit deeper by about 1/4" but I should be able to just trim the input shaft down if it is a problem. I havent looked into the jeep throw-out bearing vs the mustang one etc but that should be pretty simple to do.
I just thought I'd share this info because depending on how everything goes together it may work out pretty well and be a nice alternative to the expensive aftermarket bells to get a nice shifting O/D 5spd in our cars!
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Ford bell. 7"
AMC bell. 6 13/16"
Well on the way home from work I was thinking about the T5 because they started out in CJ7's which I have rebuild a handful of. So I called Novak-Adapters and I asked "The T5 was a borg-warner transmission in the CJs. Then they came out with the World Class for the mustangs etc. Did they change the front bolt pattern where the bellhousing bolts to it?" He answers "No I dont think they did." So I said "Well does that mean the CJ7 bellhousing will bolt to the ford T5?" ... "Ugghh I've never had anyone ask that before but I dont see why it wouldnt. The input bearing retainer may be different?"
I know for a fact that the AMC and Mopar bell housings are the same because I have used Mopar AX15's on many v8 and /6 CJ engines.
After getting off the phone with them I called up a guy I use to work for who had a T5WC with 50k on it from a wrecked 86 mustang and picked it up for $50. Took it back to the shop and pulled the bellhousing off it frantically and sure enough.... they are the same pattern!! I had a CJ T5 bell under the bench from an old trans. The input bearing retainer is infact bigger by about 1/4 of an inch so I'm going to have my buddy machine it for me.
This means we can bolt our small block mopars to a nice 5spd trany for pretty cheap since the CJ T5's are pretty easy to come by being that they came in almost every 6 cylinder CJ from 82/83 up to 86 that was a 5spd.
The Ford bell is a little bit deeper by about 1/4" but I should be able to just trim the input shaft down if it is a problem. I havent looked into the jeep throw-out bearing vs the mustang one etc but that should be pretty simple to do.
I just thought I'd share this info because depending on how everything goes together it may work out pretty well and be a nice alternative to the expensive aftermarket bells to get a nice shifting O/D 5spd in our cars!
:blob:
Ford bell. 7"
AMC bell. 6 13/16"